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#71
03-30-2006, 11:23 AM
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Re: ZeeJustin apologizes
if the good people at www.twoplustwo.com are willing to have me back
I will be taking some time away from 2+2 as well as poker in general to allow time for forgiveness, but I hope that people will eventually be able to welcome me back Sure, come back baby, we all miss you so much. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] 
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#72
03-30-2006, 12:19 PM
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It's rather disgusting how much people love to see other people in misery. ZeeJustin is a great person who is a great poker player. He made a mistake(and I personally don't think its that horrible).
Most of you geeks(including granny mae) are just jealous because he is something you will NEVER be. Ask yourselves, have you ever cheated or lied? WELL DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!! FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BURNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just accept the the fact, 95% of the people responding in this thread are fat geeks with no lives(that includes YOU). BTW he didnt 'STEAL'. The majority of his money came from SNG's. He is a SNG master. He is a great poker player. He didnt collude, or chip dump, he just gave himself 4x as many chances to cash. Now slit ur wrists u fat geeks.
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#73
03-30-2006, 12:33 PM
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Wow, a serious contender for DBOY...
[ QUOTE ] It's rather disgusting how much people love to see other people in misery. [/ QUOTE ] It's not the misery that people love, it's the justice of seeing a criminal be punished accordingly. [ QUOTE ] ZeeJustin is a great person who is a great poker player. [/ QUOTE ] Most people would agree that is actions clearly demonstrate that he is not a great person. [ QUOTE ] He made a mistake(and I personally don't think its that horrible). [/ QUOTE ] This statement is false. He made several mistakes over and over, and then tried to explain that it wasn't really wrong. It is much different than "a mistake". [ QUOTE ] Most of you geeks(including granny mae) are just jealous because he is something you will NEVER be. [/ QUOTE ] Hated and condemned by thousands of people? Ooooh, I gotta get me some of that. [ QUOTE ] Ask yourselves, have you ever cheated or lied? WELL DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!! FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BURNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Yes I have cheated in school when I was a kid, and yes I have lied. However, none of it involved grand theft, and I did not try to rationalize it away. [ QUOTE ] Just accept the the fact, 95% of the people responding in this thread are fat geeks with no lives(that includes YOU). [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I am 147lbs of fatness. What were we discussing again? [ QUOTE ] BTW he didnt 'STEAL'. The majority of his money came from SNG's. He is a SNG master. He is a great poker player. He didnt collude, or chip dump, he just gave himself 4x as many chances to cash. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, he did 'STEAL'. Granted, he did not steal all of the 100K that was confiscated, but he certainly did steal the money won in tournaments that involved cheating. [ QUOTE ] Now slit ur wrists u fat geeks. [/ QUOTE ] Wow dude, you rock! Way to put people in there place.
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#74
03-30-2006, 12:38 PM
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Eh, I still see him as a kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. At the very least he seems genuinely apologetic, but only time will tell the truth.
I don't think people should hate him forever because of this one incident, but inevitably that will happen.
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#75
03-30-2006, 12:52 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Also, the idea was NOT to collude or chip dump with myself in any way. I only multi accounted in tournaments with thousands of players where it would be very unlikely for me to ever end up at the same table as myself. If the goal was collusion, I would have multi-entered smaller tournaments like sit’n’gos. This is something that I have never done. [/ QUOTE ] Uhh no, if you did that you would have been caught much, much more quickly and you knew that. Please don't point to this as an example of you having a semblance of ethics. You avoided doing this because you're smart enough to know that this wouldn't fly for very long. I'm sure if you had come up with some scheme to do this and get away with it, there's nothing that would have stopped you from doing so.
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#76
03-30-2006, 12:56 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
d BTW he didnt 'STEAL'. he just gave himself 4x as many chances to cash. [/ QUOTE ] ??? He most definately DID steal. And multiaccounting the SnG's is also CHEATING! You are no SNG master when you have to make 5 extra accounts to remain annonymous because you can't change gears or adjust your game well. I suggest you follow ZJ's advice and write him. [ QUOTE ] I will explain to them exactly why it is wrong on both an ethical and practical level. [/ QUOTE ] If we're fat geeks(i'm actually a health nut), your the skinny socially akward greasy kid who goes around kissing the bully's ass because no one else will hang out with you.
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#77
03-30-2006, 12:59 PM
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I think the Barry Bonds analogy fits this situation perfectly. Using steriods to improve your performance on the baseball field is not implicitly written into the rule book as illegal, but anyone with a clear conscience has to know that it is at the very least unethical to the integrity of the game. Where the true character of the human being comes into play is whether or not he will step up to the allegations and assume responsibility for his actions. ZJ clearly didn't do this, and now that he has given up hope of getting his money back, this less than adequate attempt to explain himself is truly nothing more than damage control.
The same thing will happen with Barry Bonds if he ever comes clean and admits his steriod use. Many people will never forgive him and always consider him scum, and others will take him back as a hero and still enshrine him in their hall of fame. I, personally, have too much self respect to ever admire people of such putrid character.
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#78
03-30-2006, 01:31 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Wow, a serious contender for DBOY... [ QUOTE ] It's rather disgusting how much people love to see other people in misery. [/ QUOTE ] It's not the misery that people love, it's the justice of seeing a criminal be punished accordingly. You want an excuse to act cruel. [ QUOTE ] ZeeJustin is a great person who is a great poker player. [/ QUOTE ] Most people would agree that is actions clearly demonstrate that he is not a great person. Name someone who is a great person? Name someone who has never made a mistake? Bill Clinton cheated on his wife so that erases all his other actions right? [ QUOTE ] He made a mistake(and I personally don't think its that horrible). [/ QUOTE ] This statement is false. He made several mistakes over and over, and then tried to explain that it wasn't really wrong. It is much different than "a mistake". You are a hypocrite. I wouldnt doubt that you molest little kids. Quit acting like you have never done anything wrong. [ QUOTE ] Most of you geeks(including granny mae) are just jealous because he is something you will NEVER be. [/ QUOTE ] Hated and condemned by thousands of people? Ooooh, I gotta get me some of that. Jealous that he wins at high stakes SNG's without cheating. Something you will never achieve. Take my advice and slit ur wrists, ur worthless. [ QUOTE ] Ask yourselves, have you ever cheated or lied? WELL DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!! FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BURNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Yes I have cheated in school when I was a kid, and yes I have lied. However, none of it involved grand theft, and I did not try to rationalize it away. This wasnt grand theft. HE EARNED THE FINAL TABLES. He outplayed geeks like you. He just gave himself multiple chances. And I dont know you so I cant comment on your other mistakes(and Im sure you wont mention them), but I will make up for that by assuming you are a child molester because those are the vibes I am getting. [ QUOTE ] Just accept the the fact, 95% of the people responding in this thread are fat geeks with no lives(that includes YOU). [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I am 147lbs of fatness. What were we discussing again? 147lbs at midget height qualifies as "fat geek". We were discussing how you should slit your wrists. [ QUOTE ] BTW he didnt 'STEAL'. The majority of his money came from SNG's. He is a SNG master. He is a great poker player. He didnt collude, or chip dump, he just gave himself 4x as many chances to cash. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, he did 'STEAL'. Granted, he did not steal all of the 100K that was confiscated, but he certainly did steal the money won in tournaments that involved cheating. You dont comprehend. There is a huge difference between chip dumping/collusion and multiple entries. I didnt say it was OK, I just think its dumb to cry over something so stupid for months. [ QUOTE ] Now slit ur wrists u fat geeks. [/ QUOTE ] Wow dude, you rock! Way to put people in there place. [/ QUOTE ] YA! I know I rock. I am your God. Know your place geek. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I win
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#79
03-30-2006, 01:36 PM
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If we're fat geeks(i'm actually a health nut), your the skinny socially akward greasy kid who goes around kissing the bully's ass because no one else will hang out with you. [/ QUOTE ] Classic! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#80
03-30-2006, 01:43 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Also, the idea was NOT to collude or chip dump with myself in any way. I only multi accounted in tournaments with thousands of players where it would be very unlikely for me to ever end up at the same table as myself. If the goal was collusion, I would have multi-entered smaller tournaments like sit’n’gos. This is something that I have never done. [/ QUOTE ] Uhh no, if you did that you would have been caught much, much more quickly and you knew that. Please don't point to this as an example of you having a semblance of ethics. You avoided doing this because you're smart enough to know that this wouldn't fly for very long. I'm sure if you had come up with some scheme to do this and get away with it, there's nothing that would have stopped you from doing so. [/ QUOTE ] Yes... he was obviously trying very hard to obscure his activity by playing six accounts simultaneously from the same computer.
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