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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not to mention that LS under this defintion has a government. [/ QUOTE ] WAIT A SECOND!!! IT HAS A GOVERNMENT!!!???!!!! Oh yeah, it never claimed to be without one. [/ QUOTE ] You should learn more about the views you support. There are defintitely anarchists in the LS camp. [/ QUOTE ] But has anyone ever claimed it to be without a government in this discussion? Nope. How many LSists have you talked to? My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass. [/ QUOTE ] Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic. [/ QUOTE ] Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs." No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass. [/ QUOTE ] Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic. [/ QUOTE ] Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs." No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living. [/ QUOTE ] Good thing LS =/= Marxism. I only invoked that quote as something people would be familiar with. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Cut off every ounce of productivity, fun and enjoyment in life so we can protect the extreme few in this society who should be naturally selected against? I'll pass. [/ QUOTE ] Who says there's no fun and enjoyment? Because I, personally, do not know how Wiis would be distributed? I've never claimed any sort of expertise on the topic. [/ QUOTE ] Karl Marx said it. "To each according to his needs." No Wiis would ever be produced, nor, for that matter, would anything else that makes life worth living. [/ QUOTE ] Good thing LS =/= Marxism. I only invoked that quote as something people would be familiar with. [/ QUOTE ] But as we discussed earlier with the case of the village of LSists. They would produce only their base needs because there's no incentive to produce more than that. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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How many LSists have you talked to? [/ QUOTE ] Quite a few here [ QUOTE ] My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it. [/ QUOTE ] Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] How many LSists have you talked to? [/ QUOTE ] Quite a few here [ QUOTE ] My guess is that those who are anarchists identify--probably falsly as ACists do--as such, and not just as "libertarian socalists." Like anarcho-communists or something like it. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Interesting about RevLeft...I'll have to look at that. But funny you should say: [ QUOTE ] Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism. [/ QUOTE ] From wikipedia: [ QUOTE ] The terms anarchist communism and libertarian communism should not be considered synonyms for libertarian socialism. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm one of those poor confused souls who haven't yet figured out how AC provides a criminal justice system equivalent. [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't. It provides a mockery of justice paid for by the highest bidder. The status quo isn't perfect either, so try to not attack me by pointing out flaws in the current system. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, missed this post. I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending. |
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I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending. [/ QUOTE ] That's fine. My warning was a preemptive warning in case this thread got hijacked in the direction of criminal justice. |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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But funny you should say: [ QUOTE ] Anarcho-communism is a type of libertarian socialism. [/ QUOTE ] From wikipedia: [ QUOTE ] The terms anarchist communism and libertarian communism should not be considered synonyms for libertarian socialism. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Dobermans are a type of dog. Dobermans should not be considered a synonym for dogs. From wikipedia, like a whole one sentence before your quote: [ QUOTE ] A well-known libertarian socialist political philosophy is anarchism, with anarchist communism and anarcho-syndicalism the most active sectors. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Libertarian Socialism - I don\'t understand...
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not doing that. I'm attacking LS which you appear to be defending. [/ QUOTE ] That's fine. My warning was a preemptive warning in case this thread got hijacked in the direction of criminal justice. [/ QUOTE ] You know the best way to avoid hijacks? Not making assertions about a topic that isn't related to the current discussion. |
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