Chris Benoit and Wife found dead

[spyderracing]

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Some of you are in serious denial.

Background - I used to be a serious gym rat at a big gym. I'd go twice a day and after about a year of doing this I got to know a number of the people that were there all the time - stunt men, pro athletes (football and basketball), state body building champions, etc.

I can say from personal experience/first hand knowledge that every single guy that looked like Benoit was on the juice. Now, they worked out a lot, and they always gave people their little workout routine bs when people asked how they got that big, but you found out that they were all on the juice once you got in the inner gym circle.

You don't get to look like that without being on something regardless of what lies these people tell you.

[/ QUOTE ] You would be suprised what proper diet and training can do for someone. I'm 5'11", 230, 19 y/o @ about 13% BF. I bench 405, deadlift 655, and squat 505. I've never touched more than whey protein, creatine, and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots...and lots*n^oo...of food.

[yoyoyo]

so you actually juice guids and you are still this delusional? that is good stuff.

since you are all about facts and evidence, please tell all of us how someone can use "science" and legal supplements to get their t-levels to the levels of someone using test and dbol.

you do realize if someone took a very miniscule dose, what you claimed franco did, of 250mg a week that that is still multiple times what the male body develops naturally. so how is that going to be reproduced without those drugs? if legal supplements worked anywhere close to as well as the the good stuff, there wouldnt be so many guys on the good stuff.

[Vyse]

yoyo, stop tossing around condescending insults and get some facts or stfu.

[yoyoyo]

not to hate on your spyder, because you have very good lifts, but i would bet just about anything that your bodyfat level isnt close to what you think it is. and the reason i say that is because i once thought the same thing when i was your age.

until you get down to low low bodyfat levels, you dont realize how far away you really were before you started.

[raze]

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is benoit sicilian? i ask because it is the mother who passes the son the fetal-x chromosone, and a male child is very important to sicilians.

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lol

[guids]

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so you actually juice guids and you are still this delusional? that is good stuff.

since you are all about facts and evidence, please tell all of us how someone can use "science" and legal supplements to get their t-levels to the levels of someone using test and dbol.

you do realize if someone took a very miniscule dose, what you claimed franco did, of 250mg a week that that is still multiple times what the male body develops naturally. so how is that going to be reproduced without those drugs? if legal supplements worked anywhere close to as well as the the good stuff, there wouldnt be so many guys on the good stuff.

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uh...it doesnt work like that chief. 250mg of dbol does not really equal 250mg over the course of a week. google "half life" and dbol.

[amplify]

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Think about the IFBB pro-bodybuilders (think Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler). I've never heard of any of these guys flying off the handle and killing their entire families

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I'm a fan of knowledgable and responsible steroid use myself, and it's not the same deal, but maybe the name Craig Titus rings a bell.

[amplify]

and yoyoyo, stfu

[yoyoyo]

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yoyo, stop tossing around condescending insults and get some facts or stfu.

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anybody that claims someone can naturally use science and legal supplements to achieve t-levels of PRO BODYBUILDERS of the past that were using real steroids deserves to be ridiculed. he's looney and living in some fantasy land.

not to mention the whole "i bet benoit used" after the police had found roids in his home, benoits doctor admitted to prescribing them for him, and some of his friends admitted to knowing chris used them, he's finally going to "bet" chris used them.

[Vyse]

Whether your point or not is valid, being a total ass is not justified esp when the opposition has valid points of their own.