STTF SNG->cash thread

[cakewalk]

hand1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($100)
MP ($153)
CO ($147.40)
Button ($248.75)
SB ($97.95)
BB ($111.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, SB calls $12.

Turn: ($39) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($39) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $11</font>, Hero calls $11.

villain is a standard tag. we haven't really tangled much, i've raised his donkleads before and he's folded.


hand2


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $122.90
BB: $106.50
UTG: $26.45
MP: $271.95
CO: $236.05
Hero (BTN): $100.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.00, UTG folds

Flop: ($11.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Turn: ($27.50) T (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>

villain is 18/15. can i just put him on a flush draw and keep betting for value/protection ?


hand3


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $147.90
BB: $208.25
UTG: $97.05
MP: $111.55
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $153.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, BB calls $6.00

Turn: ($20.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BB calls $14.00

River: ($48.50) 2 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $20.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00

Pot Size: $88.50 ($3 Rake)

villain has some ridiculous stats over a small sample. pretty big stupid dumb fish head.

[blackize]

Hand 1- I don't see him having a better hand here ever, but I also don't see him calling a river raise with anything you beat. So you end up valuetowning yourself the few times he actually has you beat.

Hand 2- is ? for me

Hand 3- I like a minraise on the river or a push if he's aggro on the river and stacks off easy

[GtrHtr]

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Villain seems to be a not so good reg.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($112.20)
MP ($190.90)
CO ($100)
Button ($131.70)
SB ($124.60)
BB ($133.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($23) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $58</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $129.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $43.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $225.40

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"I like!"

[K䲰䮥n]

I will post three hands that are eating up my soul.

#1 Villain is a 20/10/3. I have no special history vs him. Should I check behind the turn? If yes, why? What to do on this turn c/r?

Seat 1: Firetribe ( $98.50 )
Seat 10: MNF2000 ( $96.50 )
MNF2000 posts Small Blind $0.50
Firetribe posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
DonQuix folds
Mad Frankie folds
raneu folds
Do6pbIu folds
MNF2000 calls $0.50
Firetribe raises $3
MNF2000 calls $3

Dealing Flop 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MNF2000 checks
Firetribe bets $5
MNF2000 calls $5

Dealing Turn 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MNF2000 checks
Firetribe bets $12
MNF2000 raises $34
Firetribe?




#2 I have no idea what to do on turn or why. fold, call or raise? I feel like betting the river would be kinda thin.


Seat 5: skintboy ( $100 ) <font color="blue">a bit nitty reg</font>
Seat 8: zprofy ( $97.20 ) <font color="blue">58/17/3 showdown monkey</font>
Seat 10: Firetribe ( $116.90 )
AMielke posts Small Blind $0.50
skintboy posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
MiguelAdriano folds
zprofy raises $2
Firetribe calls $2
AMielke folds
skintboy calls $1

Dealing Flop 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
skintboy checks
zprofy bets $4
Firetribe raises $19.50
skintboy calls $19.50
zprofy calls $15.50

Dealing Turn 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
skintboy bets $30
zprofy calls $30
Firetribe calls $30

Dealing River 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
skintboy checks
zprofy checks
Firetribe checks



#3

Seat 6: MiguelAdriano ( $186.53 ) <font color="blue">Pretty much a maniac but no specific reads on his patterns</font>
Seat 10: Firetribe ( $142.25 )
TobyCash posts Small Blind $0.50
Kimmo71 posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
MiguelAdriano calls $1
zprofy folds
Firetribe raises $4.50
TobyCash folds
Kimmo71 calls $3.50
MiguelAdriano calls $3.50

Dealing Flop 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Kimmo71 checks
MiguelAdriano bets $2
Firetribe raises $20
Kimmo71 folds
MiguelAdriano calls $18

Dealing Turn Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MiguelAdriano checks
Firetribe checks
Dealing River A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MiguelAdriano bets $20
Firetribe call or push?

[wiggs73]

Karp,

I hate the situation in hand 1. Generally I think "fold" is the correct answer, but... I might would call here just because this is a blind battle and just because people play really weird and bad in blind battles sometime.

I think either way, checking behind the turn is good, but maybe I'm being results oriented because I hate this spot so much.

The problem with calling the turn is that I hate also calling the river and IF he's check/raising the turn as a bluff, he'll usually shove the river and IF he's check/raising the turn for value, he pretty much will always push the river. Maybe if you are futuredoc, you can just shove the turn and let him call with bottom pair and then post it in the [censored] thread. I'd probably fold though and make some note about hating him and blind battles and stuff.

Hand 2, if they checked a 5 or a higher set on the river, then [censored] them and they can have my stack. I want money from an overpair / a goofy 2 pair they can't get away from.

Hand 3, I'd def. just call - I don't see any value in raising unless he is a complete idiot and will call with 8x or some similar trashy holding.

[Pudge714]

My A7 hand I feel his river range is basically a nine or air and his flop/turn range makes him pretty never have a nine.

My TT hand
My thinking is I need 30% equity, lots of pairs "need" to bluff here because they have no showdown value. I call. FWIW I really wish I had T9s because than it looks like a much cooler call.

[microbet]

Karp

#1

Blind on blind violence. When he only completes the SB can you put him on A9-AQ?

Check-call, Check-raise is strong. He probably has 2 pair.

Fold.


#2

The 7 was very likely to have hit one of them and there was a big bet and a call in front of you.

You're getting a little more than 4 to 1 from the pot and you are about 5 to 1 to hit the FH on the river.

Your implied odds against a straight are pretty good on the river so I think you can call, but you are going to be oversetted some of the time.

I don't know what nitty reg plays this way. He could be expecting a bet from one of you. He's not likely to have any hand that pays off on your bet. Maybe 88? zprofy is pretty darn unlikely to have you beat and might have 2 pair, but missed flush draw is more likely.

With $170 in the pot and only $50 or so behind I don't think people are checking the 5 or folding overpair/2pair, so push. Skint might have been tricky or have an overset, but you don't have to be right all the time.


#3

Almost always just call, but he's your maniac. Hurry up and get specific reads.

[dipstikdave]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($12.30)
UTG ($26.60)
UTG+1 ($27.40)
MP1 ($12.70)
MP2 ($9.80)
MP3 ($28.20)
Hero ($36.20)
Button ($20.05)
SB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $3.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $24.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33.45</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.14 (All-In).

villain is a loose calling station. should i slow down on this turn?

[futuredoc85]

you should have bet full pot or just under on the flop esp. vs a calling station, why did you bet ~1/2 pot on such a drawy board? Turn i can see just calling vs a competent opponent b/c that just completed every draw.

[Jbrochu]

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My TT hand
My thinking is I need 30% equity, lots of pairs "need" to bluff here because they have no showdown value.

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After reading your thoughts and FD's comments I understand the call, at least against competent opponents.

I was thinking the hammerheads I usually play against could easily have any J, 22, AA, KK, and even A high often enough that it makes it much closer.