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[TheProdigy]

Talk about going overboard with your bluffs..


Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $671.50
BB: $435.70
UTG: $1,062
UTG+1: $536.40
UTG+2: $208.10
MP1: $394
MP2: $343.85
CO: $106.10
Hero (BTN): $478.65

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $4, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $4, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $20

Flop: ($58) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $64

Turn: ($226) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($226) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $235.85 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $235.85

Results: $697.70 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP2 showed 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$343.85 NET)
Hero showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Sevens full of Tens) and WON $694.70 (+$350.85 NET)

[Cry Me A River]

I'll admit, I was pretty worried about set over set.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $98.50
UTG+1: $15.75
Hero (MP1): $104
MP2: $194.30
CO: $110.25
BTN: $95
SB: $106.55
BB: $133.90

Pre-Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($41.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $53</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $75 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $22

River: ($191.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $191.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Threes) and WON $188.50 (+$93.50 NET)
BTN mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$95 NET)

[Johnes Benjamin]

How can I add threads to favorite posts/reminders?
I have 2 in there so I guess I did it somehow before

edit: nevermind

[the_main]

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If youre tilted and really want to keep playing, donkaments are the best cure. Plus you can limit your losses really easily.

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What of donkaments are your primary source of tilt? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Well that would mean you're primarily a donkament player, which would mean suicide is the only viable option.
(I played them almost exclusively for a year or so -- I wish the variance on no one)

It's a good story but I'll give the cliffs:
I actually won the $11r $55kgaurantee for $12k with ~$0 to my name. Dunno where I would be if I didn't go deep.

[CalledDownLight]

My internets broke when I was 11 tabling donkaments like 20 min ago. It was gone for like 15 min. Tilted me more.

[the_main]

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If youre tilted and really want to keep playing, donkaments are the best cure. Plus you can limit your losses really easily.

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pls provide donkaments cliff notes for decent winning TAG NL cash game player. Many thanks and 5% of my winnings for the next 4 tournaments I enter.

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Donkaments are fun for me b/c I can be pretty nitty when playing cash.

Here are my cliffs:
In the early stages, you should play lots of pots. Open raise a bunch, call a lot in position.
Lots of reasons, but basically you can rely on your postflop skills to exploit the donkeys (skill level is 100x worse in tournaments).
If this goes well, you build a nice stack or you'll bust.
You need a big stack to do damage in these things, as all the money is at the final table (Usually top 4).

Keep it up until you have an M of around 10 [M=stack size/sb+bb+(ante*players)]*. Then you have to tighten up and look for places to steal blinds, and push over weak open raisers. Or find a hnd of course.


Once your M is ~4 you should be open pushing anytime its folded to you in MP-LP where you figure you have a decent chance to pick up blinds.

Once M is less than 2, you're in big trouble, and you have to push pretty much anytime you can open. Try to never get in this spot.

*example:
You have a stack of 4000 at 9 players at table. Blinds 100/200 with ante of 25.

m=4000/100+200+(25*9)
m=4000/300+225
m=4000/525
m=7.62

[popers]

bragging outta control

[CalledDownLight]

my M is 50 in this 6max rebuy I'm playing right now. Think I'll cash? 2 of 30, top 6 pays.

edit: meh, only for the CL of a sat.

PokerStars Game #12540124476: Tournament #63186248, $3+$0 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/10/09 - 23:57:29 (ET)
Table '63186248 20' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: firts time (3245 in chips)
Seat 2: Sojourner (1275 in chips)
Seat 3: THEOS MOU (2065 in chips)
Seat 4: sredna lrak (5165 in chips)
Seat 5: BlueDevils09 (5960 in chips)
Seat 7: leehrat (9065 in chips)
Seat 8: LaChupacabra (2750 in chips)
Seat 9: jonk (3270 in chips)
sredna lrak: posts small blind 75
BlueDevils09: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BlueDevils09 [Ad Kd]
leehrat: raises 450 to 600
LaChupacabra: folds
jonk: folds
firts time: folds
Sojourner: folds
THEOS MOU: calls 600
sredna lrak: calls 525
BlueDevils09: raises 5360 to 5960 and is all-in
leehrat: raises 3105 to 9065 and is all-in
THEOS MOU: calls 1465 and is all-in
sredna lrak: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 9s Th]
*** TURN *** [9h 9s Th] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [9h 9s Th 2c] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BlueDevils09: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Nines)
leehrat: shows [Ah Qd] (a pair of Nines - lower kicker)
BlueDevils09 collected 7790 from side pot
THEOS MOU: shows [6d 3d] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
THEOS MOU collected 6795 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14585 Main pot 6795. Side pot 7790. | Rake 0
Board [9h 9s Th 2c 6c]
Seat 1: firts time folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Sojourner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: THEOS MOU (button) showed [6d 3d] and won (6795) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 4: sredna lrak (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: BlueDevils09 (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (7790) with a pair of Nines
Seat 7: leehrat showed [Ah Qd] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: LaChupacabra folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jonk folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[GrandMelon]

Finally grew a pair and am 12 tabling 3/6 and 5/10, wish me luck

[Body Man D]

Twice tonight I've 3 bet with AA preflop and got stacked by turned straights vs. 10,Jo. WTF??