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View Poll Results: If Santana Moss doesn't play this week, who plays?
G. Jennings @ MIN 2 22.22%
Re. Williams vs HOU 7 77.78%
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

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peyton >>> brady

pats >> indy

saying peyton > brady and thats why indy > pats is really silly. the patriots have better skill players and a better defense (by a noticeable margin IMO).

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Skill Players? I don't know about that. Addai averaging 4.9 YPC, Keith averaging 4.7 YPC. I think the Patriots are better, but they're better b/c of how sick that passing game is, so yeah, I think they're better at WR. Defense is pretty close though. NE's probably better, but it's not a huge difference.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:55 PM
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peyton >>> brady

pats >> indy

saying peyton > brady and thats why indy > pats is really silly. the patriots have better skill players and a better defense (by a noticeable margin IMO).

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Moss >>> Harrison
Wayne >>> Welker/Stallworth/whoever
Addai so far has been >> Maroney

Who you referring to for skill players?

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I think you are missing Dallas Clark which I feel has found a way to torch safies and LB's this year. Clark is an enourmous part of the offense, not to mention his blocking skills have increased this year as well.

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ben watson?
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

Indy has two legit #1's.

Moss is better than a legit #1.

Stallworth/Welker are not even in Harrison or Waynes league.

Addai has performed better than Maroney. Clark has performed better than any NE TE.

Saying NE has better skill players is a huge stretch.

NE has a big edge on defense, and a big edge with Moss.

Every other skill position and QB Indy has an edge in my estimation.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:56 PM
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wayne isnt better than two guys..he is prob better than stallworth, but welker >>>>>>>>>> than #3....

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Welker is the #2 option though. Just because he's in the slot is no reason to put him behind Stallworth in the hierarchy.

Also, LOL at the prob. Wayne is definitely better than Stallworth.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:58 PM
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wayne isnt better than two guys..he is prob better than stallworth, but welker >>>>>>>>>> than #3....

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Welker isn't >>>>>>>>> Morehead or Gonzalez or whomever. Look at the numbers Stokley put up in Indy a couple of years ago. Welker didn't find some fountain of youth. He is a good slot or mediocre number 2 reciever and he isn't that much better than a replacement level reciever. The gap between Wayne and Stallworth is similar to the gap between Colts #3 adn Welker maybe bigger.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:58 PM
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Watson has been really, really good this year (but yeah, they probably won't have him for the next game).
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: ***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

I don't think NE has a big advantage on def but definitely an advantage. I will be the first to admit that I thought the losses in the offseason was going to hurt the Colts tremendously on defense, yup, I was wrong.

Bob Sanders is the heart and soul of the Colts, with him on the field I feel like that unit thinks they can accomplish anything. That DL at times is tremendous. I do feel like they are hit or miss, especially on 3rd and long, I truly dislike Freeney's pass rushing style, but it is extremely effective so what do I know. I'll let those more in the know of NE comment on them. And hopefully people that know Indy better than I do go further.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:01 PM
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I don't think NE has a big advantage on def but definitely an advantage. I will be the first to admit that I thought the losses in the offseason was going to hurt the Colts tremendously on defense, yup, I was wrong.

Bob Sanders is the heart and soul of the Colts, with him on the field I feel like that unit thinks they can accomplish anything. That DL at times is tremendous. I do feel like they are hit or miss, especially on 3rd and long, I truly dislike Freeney's pass rushing style, but it is extremely effective so what do I know. I'll let those more in the know of NE comment on them. And hopefully people that know Indy better than I do go further.

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I will say that the Colts are surprisingly solid on defense. And Bob Sanders is a complete stud. I don't know how to quantify how big the edge is, but I do favor the Pats there by a decent margin. But, I don't know either that well so could very well be wrong.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:01 PM
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tty guys next sunday night.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:02 PM
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wayne isnt better than two guys..he is prob better than stallworth, but welker >>>>>>>>>> than #3....

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Welker isn't >>>>>>>>> Morehead or Gonzalez or whomever. Look at the numbers Stokley put up in Indy a couple of years ago. Welker didn't find some fountain of youth. He is a good slot or mediocre number 2 reciever and he isn't that much better than a replacement level reciever. The gap between Wayne and Stallworth is similar to the gap between Colts #3 adn Welker maybe bigger.

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If Clark isn't the Colts #3 (and let's face it, he is), I don't really think the Colts have a guy as good as Welker is on their roster. I don't think Moorehead or Gonzalez are mediocre #2 WR's right now.
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