"Jesus" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

[Rushmore]

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I, as a witness in the payout office, can confirm the story dealer Laurie (a.k.a. "pkrporcupine") posted.

I, having been hired as Jerry's agent for the WSOP Main Event on Monday afternoon, was the one who authorized Chris Ferguson to be present in the payout office on Wednesday morning.

Chris was acting in good faith as a former world champion who wanted to look after a fellow world champion. He was NOT acting as a representative for FullTiltPoker.net.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group
otmgmt@otmgmt.com



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I can't believe nobody has realized the importance of this post to both this thread, and to Pacific Rim poker as a whole.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[pkrporcupine]

Never did i complain about what i make, if you had paid attention you will notice that i said i love my job and dont care if Jerry tipped. He said thank you and is very sincere and a good man, not an ass like some players. I never said i was special and i never said i made $50 an hour, i usually average that before taxes sometimes more. I earn what i do because i am good at what i do just like those of you in a regular white collar job getting paid what you are worth and are valued for what you add to your job.
And thanks for the info Oliver, now atleast we know how he got in there. And CF did give great advice to JY about how to handle the taxes, how to have the casino pay him etc.
Im not sure if its even worth mentioning in here but I think it would be a great idea and step in the right direction to have a dealer on the players advisory board to be able to set up a fair way to pay the staff so everyone bennifits

[W brad]

$60,000,000 * 1.8% * 65% = $702,000

$702,000 / 700 dealers = $1,003 per dealer

Days of work:
Days most dealers needed: 7 (1a,1b,1c,1d,2a,2b,3)
Days only a fraction of the dealers are needed: (4,5,6,FT)


It seems most dealers should be getting about $1,000 for 7 days of work.

What I don't understand is why there are 700 dealers. Even on the busiest day there were only about 200 tables. Even with many extra dealers around to provide generous breaks for those working I can't see why there would be 700 dealers needed.

[Homer]

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dealers complain they're under paid, but won't tell how much they're making

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exactly. stop complaining if you aren't willing to be upfront about how much you make. obviously dealers complain because they want the tipping culture to change/improve, yet how can they create change without showing that they are being paid unfairly.

[thomasdrool]

Sounds like 1k each plus wages. How many of you only had to work 4/5 of those days? Between 100 (a few of you) and 200 (most of you) a day tippage doesn't sound too shabby to me.

[realwtf]

I understand you are getting 65% of the 1.8% of the TOTAL prizepool. CF calculated what the winner paid in tips only for what he won and took home. So he only has already paid $170,000 or so. The rest of the field who cashed each have also paid an addition 1.8% of there winnings to the toal tips.

[capone0]

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Never did i complain about what i make, if you had paid attention you will notice that i said i love my job and dont care if Jerry tipped. He said thank you and is very sincere and a good man, not an ass like some players. I never said i was special and i never said i made $50 an hour, i usually average that before taxes sometimes more. I earn what i do because i am good at what i do just like those of you in a regular white collar job getting paid what you are worth and are valued for what you add to your job.
And thanks for the info Oliver, now atleast we know how he got in there. And CF did give great advice to JY about how to handle the taxes, how to have the casino pay him etc.
Im not sure if its even worth mentioning in here but I think it would be a great idea and step in the right direction to have a dealer on the players advisory board to be able to set up a fair way to pay the staff so everyone bennifits

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If you usually make 50 dollars per hour before taxes you should never be complaining. This is a job a computer does even better than you do, yet you get paid to do it on a regular basis.

[Teph]

Why would you ever tip the dealer pool rather than just tip the dealers that you played with (That deserved it even)

That is like me walking around the Bellagio floor tipping mixed game dealers while I am at a NL table after I win a monster pot.

BTW: Oliver every post you make makes me laugh, poker is no longer fun for everyone, in fact, this just got seriousssss.

[AngusThermopyle]

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Why would you ever tip the dealer pool rather than just tip the dealers that you played with (That deserved it even)



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Maybe because if you tip an individual tournament dealer or floor, he is required to turn it into the pool? And if he "forgets", he can lose more than your tip.

[rwesty]

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I never said i was special and i never said i made $50 an hour, i usually average that before taxes sometimes more.

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No wonder they try to keep this a secret. There's no way there would be so much constant pressure to tip all the time if everyone knew this.