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Old 06-28-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Lindgren\'s $340k Golf Prop Bet Today

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awesome post Johnny

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Old 06-28-2007, 06:16 PM
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Hooray for Lindgren! This is one of those great prop bets that will be talked about and written about for fifty years.

Let me raise a few what ifs? Hypothetical questions based on the usual setup for cons and prop bets. There is usually a cast of characters which might include: the mark, shills, a steer man, and a roper.

This shouts out that Gavin and Eric were working together. First you have to find a big mark. Phil Ivey is perfect because he has the money and will pay off. Often times, big scores were taken from professional gamblers. Titanic Thompson worked gamblers. On the five percent of Amarillo Slim's stories that I believe, he'd go after gamblers. Slim said, "I look for a champion and make a sucker out of him."

If Gavin was shilling, he helped in the talkup. You need a shill partner to talk up a bet. It comforts the mark to know others are betting the same way he is. This goes back to three-card monte and every other scam. When Gavin and Eric were talking a buyout, it was in their best interests.

Here again, I am guessing and wonder if anyone else knocked this off??? I am guessing that Lindgren had done this before to practice and knew he could do it. The best prop bets are sure-things. Actually, nearly all prop bets are sure things. Titanic Thompson traveled with a bowling ball, pool cues, golf clubs..right and left handed, target pistols, horseshoes. He was ambidextrous. He'd beat you right-handed and then bet he could beat you left-handed

You nearly always need a shill, talkup man for sure-thing props. Two barbers I knew were always betting each other on props. Of course, they were in together. They'd bet on whether one could lift these weights ten times. He could or he couldn't depending on which way the outside money was running. I'd set up as early as high school dealing blackjack to a partner, shill. Others join the game.

The play and movie, Guys and Dolls, had a character Sky Masterson based on Titanic Thompson. Sky says something like, "When I left home, my daddy told me, 'Son, someday you will run into a man that wants to bet you he can make the jack of diamonds jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. If you bet with that man, you will end up with an ear full of cider.'"

I wouldn't bet on it but I am guessing Phil Ivey has cider in his ear. They set him up. They took him off. I just love it! They tipped over a sweet score. Stolen fruit tastes so much better.

Johnny Hughes

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Let me offer another explanation. The people involved in this prop bet are all good friends. They made this bet because it's fun to make your friends do stupid things for money. They wagered a nice amount which isn't life changing in the least for all people involved. They're gamblers, and these amounts of cash are just about right to make it fun for them. It's by far not enough cash for them to risk a friendship.

But NOOOO, I guess this is just too far fatched for Johnny "everyone's-a-con-artist" Hughes.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Lindgren\'s $340k Golf Prop Bet Today

Maybe you missed this part.

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Let me raise a few what ifs? Hypothetical questions based on the usual setup for cons and prop bets.

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Old 06-28-2007, 09:40 PM
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Maybe you missed this part.

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Let me raise a few what ifs? Hypothetical questions based on the usual setup for cons and prop bets.

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I did
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