Mr. Gatorade’s Lies cost me over 70k at Full Tilt

[MicroBob]

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fwiw most of the other bots played 30/60 exclusively, and he played 50/100 +, so it woudl make sense he didnt have a hand with them

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Ha ha.

Don't know anything about any of this stuff really but I think that's pretty hilarious.

"Hey Bob...how come you don't have any hands against sbrugby or omgclayaiken or phil ivey? This is just too incredible. You must be a bot!!!"

[whangarei]

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i see people sitting at heads up tables all the time, (i never play hu btw) but i see names sitting there like 5-10 people all at different tables waiting for a player. and ive always suspected them all, cause if they are real genuine people WTF arent they playing each other instead of sitting at empty tables?? someone please explain this to me.

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Hunting Fish

[Spechel EDD]

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i see people sitting at heads up tables all the time, (i never play hu btw) but i see names sitting there like 5-10 people all at different tables waiting for a player. and ive always suspected them all, cause if they are real genuine people WTF arent they playing each other instead of sitting at empty tables?? someone please explain this to me.

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game selection

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I cant believe you just gave a serious answer to that.

whats wrong with you edd?

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im very sick with the flu the past 2 days and all ive done is watch the wonder years while lying in bed

[DeathDonkey]

Bob,

If you, sbrugby, omgclayaiken, and phil ivey all played thousands of hands a month at the same stakes in heads up games, you don't think over many months you would play one hand against any of them? Not one time were you stuck and tilted and there wasn't another game to be found? Not one time you thought one of them was on tilt and suddenly playing them looked like a better prospect?

Now add to that there are a small number of heads up 30/60 and 50/100 tables on full tilt and once they fill up there are no more, and you don't think they would ever butt heads over those games?

-DeathDonkey

[MicroBob]

it was a joke.


"most of the other bots played 30/60 exclusively, and he played 50/100 +"

[DavidC]

I'd be willing to fly out for sure.

Have you contacted the gaming commission? What's their response been like?

[BeatMe1]

MrGatorade,

I have delineated my responces with stars.

Beatme1,


You say,

I got tired of Gatorade’s slander a while ago and challenged Gatorade to a live match but he never responded to my email. I am not a bot.

-- When did you send me an e-mail? When did you challenge me? When did you chat with me at all? Oh, And I ACCEPT A HU Match with you LIVE ANY DAY!!!

*********I have copied and pasted from my yahoo email account:
Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:03:54 -0700 (PDT)

webmaster@destroythebots.com

Hi Gaterade,

Let's play 100/200 at the bike tomorrow. I'm available any time after 1:00PM. My name is Lisa.

Cheers,

Lisa



I chatted with you on the same day or the day before. I was playing on intercasino (nick name RedKnight) you were giving me your usual BS and I had enough that day.

Do you acknowledge that you received the email? Do you acknowledge that you did not respond?*********

Mr. Gatorade and determine that you are a cheat because the real definition of bot is anyone Gatorade can’t beat. McCarthyism is alive and well on 2+2.

-- I have been beat by many people and have lost well over 200K. I have no problem losing which many people here can attend to, but I do have a problem with bots, one that I know of is yours, which I am 100% about.

*********If you are 100% sure that I ran a bot than I am 100% sure that you need a leason in statistics and the scientific method. When you finally understand that you have your head up your ass are you going to be man enough to admit it? Also if you would be kind enough to read about aristotelian logic you might be able to save the online poker community and your friends at Full Tilt a whole bunch of pain.***********

Or alternatively, since you seem intent on destroying my name on 2+2, we can do the following.

-- You have 4 Posts!!! And everyone usually calls me "Crazy” hence why I am called Crazy Mike.

*********The number of posts I made has nothing to do with the fact that you are trying to destroy my name and my ability to play online poker.***************

To quote Mr Gatorade (my response in parenthesis): “bots wont even play me anymore because every time they do sit in I take max amount of time and chat about how they are a bot.” (gee, hard to understand why anyone wouldn’t be thrilled to play a jerk doing that)

-- This was proved on UB only under my "MrGatorade" name proving at a party with my fellow 2+2er's that the bots were programmed not to play me and automatically sit out. Then I used my second screen name on UB to then show the people a LIVE demonstration on how the bot was a bot and so forth. The reason I don’t give much information on how I detect that they are using a bot is simply because I don’t want the bot maker to change because I have a 100% way of detecting now which I don’t want you to know to change the code of your bot.

*********Wow! Did you lend your 100% method to Full Tilt? If your method is really supposed to catch bots it did not work with me. I think the only thing your 100% method catches is winning players that rarely chat and who don't frequently post on 2+2.

I have news for you there are two different things going on here: reality and your perception of reality. Did you ever concider that the players you were harrassing might have gotten tired of your messing with them and they sat out so you would go away? How many players have you injured? How many times did you have to threaten Full Tilt to get them to bar me? I admire one thing about you. You are so persistant that people just give in so you will leave them alone. You have given me 70 thousand reasons to get the poker community to see the real Crazy Mike.*******



He thinks I'm a bot because his definition of a bot is anyone he can't beat.

-- I do beat some bots and others I don’t. Bots are very -EV since you have created a very successful bot that is based not only on math but game theory and previous archived hands.

******* How do you do agaist witches and leprechauns? Do the witches use their powers to cheat? Are the leprechauns just too dam lucky? Maybe when you have destroyed the bots you can start working on a way to detect entities that cheat using magic. I wonder who will be the first player Gatorade gets barred for the use of magic. Phil Hellmuth yours days may be numbered.********

Once again beatme1 I know a little bit about what the evidence is and I can guarantee you 100% that you were using a bot. Also the "other" accounts were also banned because of reasons I can’t talk about. Some 2+2er's know exactly what I know but are not at liberty to discuss because the more information you have = the harder it is going to be next time to destroy your bot. I have dedicated over 3 years in refining my bot detecting ways which including video recording and algorithms and other stuff I am not going to talk about. You can rest assured that I do not just make false actuations. Like any program you can turn it off and on like the UB bots have done in the last week. Everyone on here can form their own opinion but please be aware that bots should not and will not be tolerated and they should have the same action that did occur to you. GETTING DESTROYED!!!!

-Crazy Mike (MrGatorade)


********You put a whole new spin on demagoguery Crazy Mike. Your assurances are a joke. Your 100% system is a joke. You are wrong. McCarthy could not disclose his sources either. Everyone should know that this is your way of defending a weak argument.

Crazy Mike - I am available to play at the Bike any day after Thursday of next week. What day and time? I would like a credible neutral observer to report on the game. Please respond here.

BeatMe1***********

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wow, thats pretty [censored] scary to see.

I, for my part, have absolutely no knowledge about and therefore no opinion on this case.

BUT

can anybody answer me this question? :


If beatme1 was running a bot, therefore knowingly violating the T&Cs of FTP, a site that has a commonly known problem with bots, and that is, like all other sites, trying to preserve their integrity for any price... WHY would he keep 70.000$ (SEVENTY THOUSAND USD) on his account at ANY POINT OF TIME?

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I have to agree here. I would think a minimal amount would be kept online, unless op is incredably ignorant. Good point!!!!

[DavidC]

fwiw this guy not responding to chat is totally legit: I have chat turned off on full tilt and UB -- I don't see anything anyone says. Same for party.

I'm a nit, though. I just find that it distracts me from the game.

[Jenno99]

I'm sure I must be missing something here, but wouldn't you want to play a bot HU? After all their programmed responses would be lead to predictable play.

I thought the main problems with bots were that they took fishes money or colluded, neither of which is a problem at high stakes HU games.