WPT Borgata Open thread

[BostonMetro]

Antonius moves in, Doyle calls with 22o. Antonius has A2. Doyle wins and looks brilliant. Antonius is disgusted.

Argument over. Take your flip like a man and let luck decide the tourney. It's the WPT final table way.

[BigSoonerFan]

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Antonius moves in, Doyle calls with 22o. Antonius has A2. Doyle wins and looks brilliant. Antonius is disgusted.

Argument over. Take your flip like a man and let luck decide the tourney. It's the WPT final table way.

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I missed the tourney. How can pocket deuces be offsuit?

[chicken10der]

They kind of have to be. And it was actually 33o.

[Hamburglar]

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Antonius moves in, Doyle calls with 22o. Antonius has A2. Doyle wins and looks brilliant. Antonius is disgusted.

Argument over. Take your flip like a man and let luck decide the tourney. It's the WPT final table way.

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I missed the tourney. How can pocket deuces be offsuit?

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suited deuces are nothing but trouble.

[BigSoonerFan]

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They kind of have to be. And it was actually 33o.

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True, I meant "anything but", but I typing got ahead of me....

[Eponymous]

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Antonius moves in, Doyle calls with 22o. Antonius has A2. Doyle wins and looks brilliant. Antonius is disgusted.

Argument over. Take your flip like a man and let luck decide the tourney. It's the WPT final table way.

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I missed the tourney. How can pocket deuces be offsuit?

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suited deuces are nothing but trouble.

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Phil Hellmuth once lost a $10K bet thinking that 22o was favored over 22s because 22o made more flushes.

[Taso]

haha, I could have sworn the bet was about AK :P

[A_C_Slater]

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Fwiw, his 55 was a trivially easy laydown.

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Agreed. Totally different situation from the 66 hand.

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If he is reraising with the number of hands that he should, I shouldn't be folding two fives. Especially given the blinds coming up. But even if he would only reraise with hands such that he was 40% or so to have a higher pair, I was taking a 60% chance of looking like I was "bluffed out". The slight saving in Chip EV, if his big reraise meant AK AQ, KQs, or AJs, as well as say 77 thru JJ, didn't make up, in my mind,for the public relations catastrophe of being seen throwing away the best hand (NOT just a coin flip) with the tournament on the line.

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Why is AA-QQ exempt from his range? And wouldn't you forsee Sexton damaging your public relations anyway (if you did run into an overpair) with all his results oriented comments? Have you not watched him commentate in a WPT episode before?

I'm certain Sexton knew that 66 shove was correct, but he acted like it was terrible anyway. And that's the point, he's saying what he thinks the typical viewer expects to hear and not what he really knows.

[W brad]

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was sklansky being serious in his post? he would rather make a -ev play then get bluffed off a hand on tv?

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I really don't have a clue. But how -ev would it be if he thought he'd sell X# less books?

He said it himself last night. For a long time he made his money on playing poker. Now he makes it off selling books.

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Then you should consider this hand which happened some time between the 66 hand and the 55 hand:


David KJ
Mark 86
Chris KT

At the flop:
405K pot size
Flop comes JA7 (with two spades helping no one)

Flop action:
David checks
Mark bluffs 200K
Chris calls
David folds the best hand with a pot 4 times the bet size.

I have to reconsider buying any more books from someone so easily bluffed off the best hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

[smittymatt]

Anywhere to watch this episode in the internet?