NL 1/2 Making a living?

[smbruin22]

good thread...

question to the original poster.... how long can you stay in USA with no status?? do they care??

[RocketPiquette]

That is exactly what I think. Thank you.

[RocketPiquette]

«I you bluff a fish, you become one.» -Daniel Negreanu

[Cactus Jack]

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have any of you guys ever played 1/2nl live? If you're a good internet player and you make the adjustments to live poker you just crush games

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lol If you make the adjustments. Otherwise you're nothing more than a fish for which we have an appetite. Internet players are just as tasty and often go down much quicker.

Seriously, we see a lot of the baseball hat boys out here, and they rarely "crush" the games. Most often it is they who get crushed. It takes more than knowing how to play video poker.

It's more of a myth than fact, yet one which dies hard.

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This is the dumbest, most mind numbing drivel i've ever read

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Gosh, it's almost like you took it personally. Maybe you did. Maybe you are?

I do this every day. In Vegas. You have 36 posts. I might have some credibility. But nice comeback and a great argument. You'll get your 2+2 pin any day now. You won't need to wear it at the B. We'll know who you are. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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[agent_fish]

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Keys I would not expect the majority of young people to see my point because they seem to have little concept of right from wrong.
They were not raised with morality etc. etc..
It contributes to how they filter everything through thier mindset including poker.
Again I do not aim to put down anyone .But still I expect replies of attitude like yours and many more.

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What is old people doing on the internets?

[USC@MICH]

I didnt think old people could use a E-Mail machine!

[daveT]

I would like to add more to bieng pro. I am not a pro. A pro doesn't go broke as much as I do. But that is not because I am a bad player, it is because I suck at living life. I have a bizarre way of falling into life's traps. For example, not keeping track of all of my bank accounts. Over-drafting your bank will destroy your living money faster than a week of losing sesions. Amazing how accidently "borrowing" $4 will cost $100. Other things to consider is how much you can afford rent, or not afford rent. In the case of Vegas, you can find places for as little as $400 a month, but also realize that that there are other expenses.

The main thing is patience. Adventuring will not net very much in the end. Putting undue pressure on yourself to perform is not good for your mental health. When winning or losing is the difference between sleeping on a grate or in a hotel, it is very hard to perform properly at the table. I imagine that you are well rolled, but it is hard to see the difference when you are down 15 buy in and you see how little you have left.

But I would never try to talk someone out of living their dreams. I personally grew up in the most extreme poverty you could have in America, and I would not be who I am today if I did not have the will to take chances. I am only pointing out some the the risks you will have to look forward to. I am going to take a sabatical from LA for a few months. I will be moving to Vegas by the end of the week. Hope to see you their and Good Luck.

I am 28 years old and have no comment on the 30+ vs 25- battle here. I would like to point out that the going trend in Hollywood is that many succesful people are under 25 or over 35, leaving everything in between in the the dust. I guess that my generation is the one that is messed up and lazy, but we also had the disadvantage of living in a bull-market compunded being raised on nothing more complex than an Atari, and living in a world where computers were considered the domain of the super-nerd. I never went on-line until I was 20 years old. Many of the most focused and driven people I know are the early 20s set. I think that it is a sign of good things to come. They are going to move the world into the direction that it must go, and that is if we all want more freedom, we all must learn to live out of the corporate constraints and definitions of financial and self-worth. Ingenuity will only come when the best minds are able to see the world freely, and to define themselves in their own sets of paradigms.

[crashjr]

Simple. It is a series of tubes.

I think the take home message from CJ's post is that your fold equity is far lower in a 1/2 NLHE live game than it is in a 1/2 game online. You just can't push some people off of Ax on an ace high flop no matter how hard you try.

[JAA]

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Ur post just motivates me even more now. I can't thank you enough. I'm very dedicated and serious about that and I think I can avoid the aforementioned pitfalls, hehe. I'll just build my live bankroll now so that I will be ready in case of a slow start when September comes.

Thanks for your comments, big boost there.

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Its not all about playing well tho, U HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS!! There was a group of 4 of us who hung aroung together, we all did well, they made 150 to 300k a year. I was very diciplined up to this point , maybe year and half ago, i never drank at the casino and had good money management. We started hanging out together and my discipline went downhill.


I blew 10k in the 80-160 game at the Borgata, lost maybe 2k each trip to foxwoods playin NL drunk. That was ok and I was stupid at the time but I corrected that, but my friends would go out 600$ dinners and $200 lunches everyday and they thought they were invinceable i guess. So basically 2 of them blew their whole rolls and are in debt/broke, and struggling and the third has problems also and just got a job after making 500k+ in a year and a half.

Another thing they did was play 200-400 because it was the highest game in the place with Stoxtrader and 7 other 2+2ERS, while im in the best 100-200 game in the country with 4-5 people seeing the flop, but they wont play because 2-4 is bigger, eventho u can earn moe in the 1-2. Controlling ur ego is a big part also. Last year and a half I would never play as low as 40-80 but I hit a big downswing and was still very comfortable but went back to grinding 20-40 at foxwoods just to get some wins under my belt. My friends played 150-300 on a 30k bankroll, lost most of it and played a well known 2+2er ( good game selection for ur last dollar) his last 10k heads up 75-150 omaha and went BUSTO. There is nothing wrong with stepping down and grinding it back out, but my friends are embarrassed to play 20-40 , but i think its better than working.

There is a lot more to being a pro than just being good player, taking losses , game selection , money management and i can say if u master these skills mentally u will have a much easier time playing for a living.

My one broke friend is a 2+2er, hes a really nice kid, maybe he will chime in if he sees the thread but he prolly sold his laptop. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Not sure if ure talking about me but i didn't go busto yet....but yeah lost lent and spent 100k+ in 3 months weeeeeeeeeeeee

- Jeff

[THE JUICE]

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have any of you guys ever played 1/2nl live? If you're a good internet player and you make the adjustments to live poker you just crush games

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lol If you make the adjustments. Otherwise you're nothing more than a fish for which we have an appetite. Internet players are just as tasty and often go down much quicker.

Seriously, we see a lot of the baseball hat boys out here, and they rarely "crush" the games. Most often it is they who get crushed. It takes more than knowing how to play video poker.

It's more of a myth than fact, yet one which dies hard.

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This is the dumbest, most mind numbing drivel i've ever read

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Gosh, it's almost like you took it personally. Maybe you did. Maybe you are?

I do this every day. In Vegas. You have 36 posts. I might have some credibility. But nice comeback and a great argument. You'll get your 2+2 pin any day now. You won't need to wear it at the B. We'll know who you are. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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wow ur smart well i play 2/5 and 5/10 in ac every weekend and will be in vegas for two weeks this summer perhaps youd like to have a heads up freezeout and show this "internet player" how to do things