Bible Club: Exodus - Page 7

MidGe · #61 02-02-2007, 03:40 AM

John21,

I think I agree with you here, unless I misunderstand what you are saying.

To me, both "I" and "god" are delusional concepts, egotically rooted and dissociated, although the "I" has a function in, whereas the "god" one is totally superfluous to functioning as, a human being.

madnak · #62 02-02-2007, 03:59 AM

When we view the "I am" as a brutal bloodthirsty entity, it's a sickness. Religion is just a symptom of that sickness, admittedly. Sometimes attacking the symptom really can touch to the root of a thing. Regardless, the manifestation of a disease or deformity deserves no respect. It can't be killed; that doesn't mean it has to remain distorted. And religion twists the "I am" into nightmare shapes. (Or results from such a twisting, it becomes semantic at a certain point.)

txag007 · #63 02-02-2007, 09:24 AM

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Just curious... in the case of the religious family that had their child born sick and it died right after it was born. The parents were excited that they were chosen by God to have their infant die right after it was born. "Thank You, God!!!"

What are the accomplishments here that we're supposed to marvel over?

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I don't know.

txag007 · #64 02-02-2007, 09:27 AM

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Assuming God exists, he doesn't deserve worship for being the creator any more than a child should be obliged to worship his parents.

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This is wrong.

txag007 · #65 02-02-2007, 09:32 AM

If concrete evidence that 600,000 Jews lived in Egypt at some point prior to 1250 B.C. was discovered, would you become a Christian?

MidGe · #66 02-02-2007, 09:53 AM

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If concrete evidence that 600,000 Jews lived in Egypt at some point prior to 1250 B.C. was discovered, would you become a Christian?

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No! Why should I?

ChrisV · #67 02-02-2007, 10:52 AM

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Assuming God exists, he doesn't deserve worship for being the creator any more than a child should be obliged to worship his parents.

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This is wrong.

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Explain? Or is this another one of those junctures where you're going to vaguely imply im not well-read enough and refuse to supply references?

ChrisV · #68 02-02-2007, 10:54 AM

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The idea I'm trying to get at is, if things happened in a way similar to what I just described, and what we now call God is really that first awareness of the "I am" within, it's deeply woven into our conscious being. In a sense, it's really who we are.

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If that were the case, I should experience severe difficulty in being an atheist. But I don't experience even the slightest problem believing what I believe.

txag007 · #69 02-02-2007, 11:56 AM

The woman is not the child's creator.

The woman's motivation was not to create a deformed child.

txag007 · #70 02-02-2007, 11:57 AM

I wasn't asking you.

EDIT: But it illustrates my point just the same.

A person doesn't believe the Bible is true because of a lack of archaelogical evidence.

(Nevermind that no archaelogical evidence has ever contradicted the writings in the Bible).

When I bring up archaelogical evidence that supports the Bible, this person says, "Well, that's not enough evidence."

When I ask if this person would become a Christian if archaelogical evidence was discovered that confirmed a particular passage of the Bible as being true, this person answers with an emphatic no.

Sounds to me like this person isn't honestly searching for the truth.