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Old 01-13-2007, 04:44 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

yves, there's a stronger possibility that they fold an A then there is that they folded another of the lower pp holdings that the button has. that being said, best case scenario we're slightly +ev if he has 77 and there was an A folded, etc, etc, so if best case scenario is slightly +ev, this is a clear fold
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

G_Dollaz:

Best case is everyone folds and we pick up 30BB with no flop.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

no way, best case is when they al l call w/AQ
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

Since when did 77 become a "big favorite" over AK?

Dead money FTW!
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

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I don't mind the fold.

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Old 01-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

If button calls with 77, he calls with AJs as well. Also him calling with 77 is no disaster, its money.
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

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Since when did 77 become a "big favorite" over AK?

Dead money FTW!

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I assume this is part of the conversation about some outs being dead. If you kill an ace, 77 has 60/40 edge:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,533,939 games 0.040 secs 38,348,475 games/sec

Board:
Dead: As

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.484% 40.34% 00.14% 618811 2191.50 { AcKd }
Hand 1: 59.516% 59.37% 00.14% 910745 2191.50 { 7h7s }
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

lol...easy push

30/25 has a huge range, 70/50 has a huge range

UTG raiser has to fold anything but AA-KK (sometimes even KK)

you look very very strong by pushing here...

is this a joke or would some people honestly fold here? christ, learn how to play shorthanded.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - LOL fold AK preflop?

Let me get this right, 2 loose/agressive players and one all out donkey vs your Ak + folding equity. Seems like a super, super standard fold.

If this was 3 tight players I would be less inclined to push
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:59 PM
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Let me get this right, 2 loose/agressive players and one all out donkey vs your Ak + folding equity. Seems like a super, super standard fold.

If this was 3 tight players I would be less inclined to push

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