Suspected cheating on AP

[jman220]

I've thoguht about this some more. I think that keeping the thread here in the mod forum is going to do more harm than good. If people are complaining to Absolute right now, and are directing them to discussion on 2+2 (like the thread in BBV), all Absolute is going to see is pretty much baseless speculation. The thread that's been moved to teh mod forum is the only one that has actual hands and statistics. I think it should be moved back so the public can see it ASAP.

[Pokeraddict]

I agree, IMO it needs to be moved back.

[citanul]

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db,

For the kids, you should refer to Office Space instead of Superman 3 when referring to that scheme.

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or, appropriately for this thread, the epic film -- hackers.

[Dids]

Moving this thread in the first place is pretty ridic.

Having these kinds of conversations in private in general is just counterproductive.

[citanul]

Dids and El Diablo are right. (From briefly scanning.)

[Gildwulf]

adanthar i think you can unsticky that thread if it is going to be unlocked...it's going to get bumped 10000 times in the next week anyways

[MEbenhoe]

Am I the only person who gets Brian's original reasoning for wanting this discussion to take place in private? I can see the other side very well also, but there is some weight to the argument that by having this discussion in the open, you're only giving this cheater fair warning to cover his ass and get as much money out while he still can.

[Schneids]

Ugh I hate how we as a mod group are handling this.

Firstly, I believe the decision to move it to the mod forum was right (no, BK never asked for my opinion). But before I explain why it was, I want to first explain why making that BBV thread was wrong:

1) The BBV thread just looks like senseless accusations, and if/when AP sees anything, that's now the first thing they see, and they see no real evidence, and dismiss us as tin-hat wearers.

2) Those of us who have played lots vs Graycat/etc basically all know eachother, we can/will keep in contact, and sort thru the evidence and create a real, LEGIT case. We really do not need hearsay and accusations clogging up this process of information collecting.

3) Time is of the essence. Who knows if these cheaters read forums or not, but, the fact we're on to them is best kept a secret as much as possible, so hopefully they don't get scared and simply pull out or notice how we're pointing out that they're being retarded about it. If they take note of our allegations (reason to move the evidence), they might even return but cheat more conservatively. Once the money is out of accounts, AP is going to give no [censored] and do nothing but, best case, suspend accounts.

4) All of the circumstantial evidence has yet to be presented in a quantifiable, 100% guilty manner. Just think from the 2p2 business end -- what happens if there was in fact no cheating, and AP gets wind of these threads. Do you think they are just going to be "oh ok 2p2, we understand." Hell no, they're going to come after the owners of this site. Right now, we have a mod posting a stickied thread, flat out saying, THERE IS SUPERPOWER ACCOUNTS ON AP WHO CAN SEE YOUR CARDS. I think it's dangerous to be this flamboyant until we're 1000% dead certain.

[jman220]

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Am I the only person who gets Brian's original reasoning for wanting this discussion to take place in private? I can see the other side very well also, but there is some weight to the argument that by having this discussion in the open, you're only giving this cheater fair warning to cover his ass and get as much money out while he still can.

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It was too late to have this discussion in private the minute that it was posted on 2+2. There's just too much coverage here. Tryign to suppress it at this point will just make it worse.

[Chump Change]

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Am I the only person who gets Brian's original reasoning for wanting this discussion to take place in private?

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No, fwiw.