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Old 10-03-2007, 10:34 PM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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And how many saves does Joe Borowski have? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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I didn't realize that # of saves was the best metric for a closer. TY for knowledge
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:35 PM
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But your argument still boils down to the idea that it's not okay to be a fan of a team with a clueless front office, as far as I can tell, and I still disagree with you.

Anyway...

Perhaps I could have made my point more eloquently by simply reminding everybody that Joe Borowski is the guy that the Cleveland Indian's try to get the ball to in the ninth inning when the game is on the line.

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Its totally ok, you are just going to be exploited. It is ok to pick a car with a dartboard but you are bound to get jobbed. As long as you recognize it and it doesn't bother you, then go at it.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:35 PM
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And how many saves does Joe Borowski have? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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I didn't realize that # of saves was the best metric for a closer. TY for knowledge

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Old 10-03-2007, 10:36 PM
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Cubs fans are idiots for supporting the smallest and dumbest front office in baseball. As Mikey said, they bring it on themselves.

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This might be the worst/dumbest argument I've seen made for any point, ever.

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Its really not. Blind homerism and loyalty is just BEGGING to be exploited. Where is the motivation to provide a quality product when the droolers are going to be eating it by the barrel no matter what it tastes like?

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So you guys were serious. The only component of your fandom is the compentency of your team's front office? Seriously? Or is it only that it's the most imporant aspect?

I became a cubs fan when I was a young child because I liked Ryne Sandberg and Andre Dawson and Mark Grace. Geographical proximity also played a role. Are you saying that these were not valid reasons to embrace a team, or rather that it's foolish to continue to embrace the team I loved then because I now know what OPS is?

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Well, none of those guys play for them any more and I don't live where I grew up any more, so that would be enough for me. But no, you can root for them for whatever reason you want. Its just asking to be exploited. If you don't care that you are being exploited, then fine (and if you don't care, you aren't really being exploited). However, for ME, I couldn't help but realize it, and it would piss me off. Different strokes. I'm not saying you are dumb (maybe kyleb is though) I'm just saying you deserve what you get.

I do take exception when fans like you (which is really the vast majority of fans) pretend like you guys are the REAL fans and that people like me and kyle are bandwagoners or fake fans or something. I'm not trying to say my way is better than yours, I'm just saying its different and pointing out the different outcomes we can both expect. No value judgment. But fans like you (not necessarily YOU, just homers in general) always tell me I'm a terrible fan and blah blah blah.

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I have no doubt that you're a ligitimate sports fan, but I don't see how you could ever call yourself a fan of any particular team. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm going back to the cubs thread to commiserate with my fellow ignant homers [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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I'm a fan of the teams that do what I like. You are a fan of teams that do what you like. What you like = be from Chicago, wear blue and red, and get their brains bashed in for 100 years [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. What I like = making smart decisions, playing an enjoyable style of baseball, and hopefully winning a [censored] of games. So, who I am a fan of changes from time to time (although not as often as you'd think) but I am still every bit as much a fan of them.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:37 PM
MrFeelNothin MrFeelNothin is offline
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Default Re: NLDS: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks

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And how many saves does Joe Borowski have? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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I didn't realize that # of saves was the best metric for a closer. TY for knowledge

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Have you never read a kyleb post before?
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:37 PM
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And how many saves does Joe Borowski have? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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I didn't realize that # of saves was the best metric for a closer. TY for knowledge

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What is wrong with you? Why wouldn't it be? He leads the AL in saves, the metric that you finish games with.

WE PLAY TO FINISH THE GAMES.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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For those of you who criticized the Zambrano deal, DID YOU FORGET THE FAT GUY CAN RAKE??
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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WHERE IS MICAH OWINGS WE NEED TO COUNTER ZAMBRANO

btw the Z deal was good imo
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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And how many saves does Joe Borowski have? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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I didn't realize that # of saves was the best metric for a closer. TY for knowledge

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Have you never read a kyleb post before?

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I wasn't being sarcastic, srsly I'm glad I know that now.

But anyway, honestly, Ryan Dempster lmao. I ain't hatin. I'm hoping for a cubs/tribe WS, tbh. K gone for reals
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:42 PM
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Look at all the goddamned Cubs fans at this game.

HAY GUISE IF YOU LIKE THE CUBS SO MUCH MOVE BACK TO CHICAGO AND STOP CLOGGING OUR ROADS YOU [censored] [censored]!
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