Heartland Poker Tour Upcoming Events & they're coming 2 Denver area 2!

[BigAlK]

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can you buy in direct to the Blackhawk event? or does Colorado law prohibit it?

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Complete details are in the links Cincylady so helpfully provided.

The answer to this question is that although the Colorado Gambling Commission has not yet given approval (based on the contents of the HPT's web page on the event) the structure they submitted indicates that you will not be able to buy-in directly. Apparently this is due to the max-buy-in allowed by current Colorado law. Other than this the setup is similiar to other HPT events. Some cheap sattelites to the main event qualifiers and the main event qualifiers (somewhere around 3-400). IIRC the site explicitly says that you can sell entries won to the qualifier or to the main event. If the gambling commission doesn't nix that then at least in theory you should be able to show up and buy an entry from someone.

The thought just occured to me that depending on supply and demand it is possible that the market rate for main event entries might be greater than face value.

[RR]

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this is the first tourny that we have had here that is anywhere close to not being a crapshoot

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There are weekly tournaments in Black Hawk with slow structures in the $300-$500 range.

[CincyLady]

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can you buy in direct to the Blackhawk event? or does Colorado law prohibit it?

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Complete details are in the links Cincylady so helpfully provided.

The answer to this question is that although the Colorado Gambling Commission has not yet given approval (based on the contents of the HPT's web page on the event) the structure they submitted indicates that you will not be able to buy-in directly. Apparently this is due to the max-buy-in allowed by current Colorado law. Other than this the setup is similiar to other HPT events. Some cheap sattelites to the main event qualifiers and the main event qualifiers (somewhere around 3-400). IIRC the site explicitly says that you can sell entries won to the qualifier or to the main event. If the gambling commission doesn't nix that then at least in theory you should be able to show up and buy an entry from someone.

The thought just occured to me that depending on supply and demand it is possible that the market rate for main event entries might be greater than face value.

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I still feel a tad nervous to post here after what happened to me (being banned), but you know what, on the HPT website, you are right. It does clearly state that the seats will be transferable.

HPT ME Seats normally go elsewhere on the HPT tour I've noticed, from $1,500 and up. Thus, there appears to be a way for people who are good sit and go players to make a fair piece of change here by winning ME seats, and then selling the public for that price.

BTW, I want to thank everyone who stood up for me, I think it helped me in getting restored again.

I still however, am going to be very cautious in what I post, as I never want to go through that experience ever again.

I'm going up to Blackhawk tonight BTW, to play in the FAN event at the Gilpin (the yearly event where they award at the end, a seat to a WPT event that takes place in December), and will stop by that hotel I promised to get the name of, and post it in here most likely tomorrow night.

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this is the first tourny that we have had here that is anywhere close to not being a crapshoot

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There are weekly tournaments in Black Hawk with slow structures in the $300-$500 range.

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The problem is RR, that none of them are structured to be direct buy ins for those amounts. They are all set up as rebuys (and also allow for participants to re-enter the tourney if they are knocked out and there are more seats open), which with how the locals play in live action (aka no fold 'em hold 'em poker) spilling into the Tourneys in Blackhawk, still makes the $300-500 events a crap shoot (because they are 100 buck rebuys).

If the Gilpin, Colorado Station, Ameristar, or The golden Gates would even once a month hold a $500 direct buyin event, then you'd be correct, it most likely would be a much better tourney. However, as it stands, the way it's structured (like the 100 buck rebuy event that the Gilpin runs), it's a crap shoot.

This and the fact that most events up there, ppl are allowed to re-enter the tourney (if they are knocked out, and if there are still seats open), add in the fact that none of the rooms in Blackhawk run Tourneys with antes in them, makes them more of a crap shoot.

[Ultra Violet]

I agree. If there was a tourney offered in Black Hawk that was a straight-up entry in the $200-500 range and no re-buy shenanigans, I would be all over it!

[CincyLady]

BTW, a friend of mine just told me that the Isle of Carpi recently bought out the Golden (Gates, Madi Gras, and Gulch) Casinos in the last 6 months. If that is indeed true, then he was thinking this event might be held in one of the Conference rooms at the Isle of Capri Hotel.

This means even more room for more tables and such.

Has anyone heard this rumor, about the Isle of Capri now owning the (three) Golden casinos?

If so, this might also explain why the HPT is coming to Blackhawk, and also as well as to why they (the HPT) picked the Golden Gates to host them. This as I seem to remember they (the HPT) have had events at other Isle of Capri locations around the country.

[tdp]

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BTW, a friend of mine just told me that the Isle of Carpi recently bought out the Golden (Gates, Madi Gras, and Gulch) Casinos in the last 6 months.

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Never heard this one and I'm at the Gates a lot.Most of the folks that work there would quit if this were the case.

[CincyLady]

Yeah, it turns out my friend was all wet. I was up there last night, in Blackhawk that is, and asked them about it. They said no way is that true, and that they were NOT part of the Isle of Capri chain.

BTW, I spoke with someone in the poker room, and he didn't know if the event has been approved yet by the Gaming commission, he wasn't even for sure if the contracts had been signed with with the HPT.

Personally, I think they have been, otherwise why else, would the HPT have the schedule posted, and be advertsing their room on their website.

Also, there seems to be some sort of question if based on colorado gaming laws, if seats can be transferable.

He also mentioned to me as well, that they are trying to get an exception to the max limit of 500 bucks for the entry fee, so that there could be direct entries into the event. I was cautioned however, that this is not something for sure, but that they were hoping to get an exception that would allow for for the direct buyin.

I for one sure hope that will be the case, as most of the locals here, are loath to pay more than 100 bucks for a tournament, and those tourneys are real donkaments to be sure, because they don't have a lot of money invested in them.

It's why (if I can't buy directly in), I'm seriously considering doing the $340 Sit and goes when those start on October 8th.

Now, that hotel I mentioned, it's a lodge, and it's called The GoldDust Village.

Seems like a nice enough motel, and the rates are not bad at all.

They are about 1 1/2 miles down the road from the casinos, and they have shuttle service.

Their Website is located here:

http://www.golddustvillage.com

where you can see pictures of the place, and of the rooms there.

It's not fancy, but it appears to be clean and well run. Looks like the top rate (currently) is about $110 a night on the weekends, and about 80 bucks during the week (call them though, for exact rates).

They also have shuttle service to blackhawk as well.

Hope this helps!

[Rottersod]

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I've sent a request to the director of The Heartland Poker Tour to have you quit spamming our site. They really should purchase advertising. You're also being banned peramently.

MM

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It sure would be nice if you issued a public statement (apology?) here about this.

[Rottersod]

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www.gilpinpoker.com The vig might be a little higher, but they are willing to go out and get the best floorstaff around.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think I'm the only one who got this Randy. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[CincyLady]

Yes, the floor staff at the Gilpin is indeed one of the best I've ever seen. I have to say though, I've yet to play at the Gates, so I can't really say one way or another with them.

Now, if (asside from the HPT) I could just get one of the rooms up there (in Blackhawk) to do a big event for the locals, even if it was just once a year, with higher buy ins, no rebuys, no reentries, antes, and longer blinds, I'd be in 7th heaven.

As it stands now, I played in yet another donkament event last night (the Fan), and it's quite frusrating to drive 70 miles each way to play in any of the regular events in any of the rooms, to bust out (or be crippled) because someone calls you with Q3 suited (just because it's suited), after a 6 times the blind raise preflop, and they call preflop and then call (again) when you bet big on the flop and they call you with just a draw, and then (they) get there.

I've lived in Denver now since March of 2006. I've yet to cash even ONCE in a donkament in Blackhawk because of the mentality there.

I sure hope the same thing doesn't happen to me a the HPT when it comes here, because of the locals mentality here, in how they play.

It's even worse when I come back from playing events in 'the real world' of poker, elsewhere.

I know some of this is on me, having to learn how to adapt, but thus far, I just can't get my finger on it, and have not been able to adapt to the fishy players here (and not get my arse kicked in the process).