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Old 10-11-2007, 02:56 PM
KenProspero KenProspero is offline
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Default Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?

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Floor ruled that Villian's hand was live. Judgment call, ruling either way is justifiable.

If Villian's hand is alive, it's his [censored] money, not yours.

Yeah, villian probably would have folded and the pot probably would have been yours, but it didn't happen. Someone saying something that they shouldn't happens all the time, it's unfortunate, but nothing you can do about it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Giving the Mouth Muppet some sort of ridiculous [censored] timeout, doesn't get me my $ back, I could care if he is standing in the corner, I want my [censored] money.

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In other words: "Kill the best hand, so I can have some money." You are not the first person to ask the floor to kill the best hand and unfortunately you won't be the last. In the future you should refrain from starting posts in B&M if you only want to vent about a perceived injustice.

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thx for the useless comment. If i wanted to vent, I would have posted the story as I was involved in it. In this case, I wanted to get as many unbiased opinions about it as possible, which is what I got.

IMO....anyone who thinks the proper reaction to the Villains action(s) during this hand should be awarding him the pot, is a fool.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?

I rule straight flus wins. He was in the process of folding his hand but had not folded yet.

Remind player who told him he had a straight flush to keep quiet when not in the hand.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?

More importantly, lol @ heavy betting with second pair T kicker, and then taking that shot on the river.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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Yeah, villian probably would have folded and the pot probably would have been yours, but it didn't happen. Someone saying something that they shouldn't happens all the time, it's unfortunate, but nothing you can do about it.

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PROBABLY???? W T F gives you ANY reason to think he is calling? Every single player at the tables was EMBARASSED that such a spewtard fish was shipped the pot. He didn't know what his hand was, so he did everything in his power to fold his hand. Who the [censored] says "I FOLD" after a hand anyways??? If anyone did that every time they fold they'd be mercilessly berated until they stopped. Although, that never happens, because NO ONE does that, it's so obviously pointless. ALSO, who kindly shifts their cards into the pile of muck???? The dealer scoops the dead cards into the muck EVERY hand, why would she not have this hand???? Just because some moron opened his mouth while he wasn't in the hand, I lose the pot to a complete donkey because the dealer hadn't scooped the cards yet???
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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Friend of mine played a hand recently....

Friend has AJ....he bets a Jxx flop
He check calls the K turn.
He check / calls the river.

Villain says "I have KJ"
Friend says "Oh crap", turns his cards face up and pushes them about 3 inches towards the dealer.

Villian then shows 95, not KJ. He has nine high.

Dealer says hero folded and awards pot to villain. Hero calls for floor who confirms ruling.

All other players complain but floor stands by his decision.

This is at Paris in Vegas (which I know is a stupid place to play poker but still....) What a joke.

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Isn't there another thread about "miscalling your hand"?

I thought the standard rule was that if you deliberately overcall your hand, and someone else mucks because of that, the overcaller cannot claim the pot.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:08 PM
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LESS importantly, lol @ heavy betting with second pair T kicker, and then taking that shot on the river.

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Not only does this have NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. Considering he was doing his best to fold his hand, and everyone at the table, including anyone of you if you were there, knew it. Then yea, pls teach me. You have no idea of eithers' table image, stack sizes, or ability to fold. So stfu if you're going to make pointless remarks.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?

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Friend of mine played a hand recently....

Friend has AJ....he bets a Jxx flop
He check calls the K turn.
He check / calls the river.

Villain says "I have KJ"
Friend says "Oh crap", turns his cards face up and pushes them about 3 inches towards the dealer.

Villian then shows 95, not KJ. He has nine high.

Dealer says hero folded and awards pot to villain. Hero calls for floor who confirms ruling.

All other players complain but floor stands by his decision.

This is at Paris in Vegas (which I know is a stupid place to play poker but still....) What a joke.

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Isn't there another thread about "miscalling your hand"?

I thought the standard rule was that if you deliberately overcall your hand, and someone else mucks because of that, the overcaller cannot claim the pot.

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Sounds like the Dealer did not think Friend called the last bet.
Villain bets and talks b.s., Friend shows hand and folds without calling, Villain shows bluff.
Dealer relays that view to Floor.
Friend too agitated to listen to what is being said and refute it.
Floor makes bad decision on bad information.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:12 PM
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RESULTS of OP......


2 floor mangers decide that because the 35h which Villain held did not TOUCH the pile of mucked cards, the hand was live. Mouth muppet was reminded of the 1 player per hand rule and allowed to continue playing, Villain never said another word until Hero (myself) left the table after verbally tearing the muppet and the floor, a new [censored].

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wow, you really know how to make friends and influence people. I'm surprised they didn't ask you to leave.

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Giving the Mouth Muppet some sort of ridiculous [censored] timeout, doesn't get me my $ back, wtf good does it do me for him to stand in a [censored] corner for 10 minutes, I want my [censored] money.

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Are you the kind of person who always thinks the world revolves around you? Thats kinda what your telling us here. It baffles me that your still harping on this when its been proven that the floor ruled correctly.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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IMO....anyone who thinks the proper reaction to the Villains action(s) during this hand should be awarding him the pot, is a fool.

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IMO someone who starts a thread and then starts trolling the same thread because he doesn't like the truth after he asked for a proper ruling is breaking the rules. Please read the forum FAQ, this is a good thread - please don't ruin it.
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