Video: Absolute Cheating by POTRIPPER

[ClubChamp04]

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Meh, don't really see it. (So that means I'm in on it, right?)

Someone name some hands that are especially suspicious.

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level?

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No, sorry. I just don't see this video as the smoking gun that is going to make the masses' heads assplode. It didn't make mine.

I'd just love to see more of a conclusive, statistical analysis (And there have been some, and probably more are in the works, so not hating here).

People just get so excited with conspiracy theories that common sense tends to fly out of the window. He makes a sick play = "zomg superuser", he plays stupid = "he just sucks/doesn't want to make it obvious".

Anyway it seems like this is about to hit mainstream big time. It'll fun to see what happens.

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You're a moran. That is all.

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[Ctrl.Dominate]

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I'd be thinking about taking this off youtube if you know what I mean.

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yeah this really sucks for online poker imho

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I agree with this. If this gets on the news everyone who knows that you play poker online will be asking you about it. It's also ammo for the government to show that these sites aren't safe and they need to take more action. This could easily be more than a nightmare for just Absolute Poker's PR department.

[Synergistic Explosions]

I studied each hand listed in text and I can confirm without a doubt that the player potripper had access to his opponents hole cards on every dealt hand, with the exception of the first two, which he folded preflop.

There is no doubt. This is now a fact.

[Toro]

100% sure he could see hole cards after watching that but I'm amazed how weak tight his opponents were. I'm through 40 hands now and not once did anyone have the balls to look him up on any of his bluffs. On hand 40 Josiah riased preflop with AQ and pottripper called with Q3o.

The flop came 566 and Josiah made a 700 CB and Pottripper raised to 3100 and everyone folded back to Josiah and Josiah folded. This fold is pretty standard except against some turkey playing every hand and betting almost every hand like he has the nuts. I personally in this situation against a super lag would push with the AQ. And there are probably better examples but no one in these first 40 hands ever stood up to him.

[Lyric]

He did make a couple of weird plays, like limiping 84 UTG with big hands out, and calling the turn with a 9 high one card flush draw, drawing dead vs his opponent's JJ.

He likely just made a couple of mistakes, and or his HUD didn't pop up in time to stop him from limping 84, but overall it's pretty obvious he's both bad at poker and can see all the holecards.

[Speel Posher]

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I disagree that this hand is evidence of cheating.

The hole cards were QJh and the flop came 10d7d4d. Potripper checked, other guy bet, and Potripper folded.

What is so suspicious here? Most people would fold post-flop, whether they could see the opponent's hole cards or not, in this situation. He could be drawing dead to a flush, he has basically nothing. I just don't see why it's unusual to fold where the flop was missed like this.

4-betting pre-flop is not that surprising either. A lot of people would do that in this situation. His stack was like 34000 at that point, so he put in maybe 400 into the pot to see the flop.

I guess this is the kind of post on this thread that's so aggravating: potripper makes an absolutely normal, reasonable play, and somehow its construed as evidence of cheating. Why?

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Meh, don't really see it. (So that means I'm in on it, right?)

Someone name some hands that are especially suspicious.

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5:15 in he 4 bets QJs PF against 77, then check/folds the flop when other guy flops a set

just watch his post flop play, he never makes a mistake. I agree the first part of the video isnt very compelling and he makes some stupid plays (I posted a few above), but then someone reminded me that hes not any good at poker, he can just see the other peoples cards. Just keep watching it gets pretty obvious

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Open folding kq on the button when he was calling all other raises pf is pretty obvious(bb had aa coincidentally)

calling jj raise preflop with aa with 5 more people to act behind him. Some people may say he was trying to trap, but if you couldnt see hole cards you would think there would be a reraise especially as deep as they were.

the k8 vs aj vs aq was pretty suspicous. (he flopped top pair on an 876 board and the turn came a 7 and aq made a play and he just re raised)

The only hands he ever folded pre flop were when the guys left to act had qq kk or aa.

He called or raised all small pocket pairs and then magically bluffed them all out.

I forget which hand it was but he bets into 4 people with ace high on a k j small card flop.

the k2 hand was crazy valuetown

the one that intrigued me the most was the a5 hand when the guy had nines. We all know he had nines but when he raises river when flush draw/straight draw hits how many people raise there with two pair on that board? you can justify a call but a raise there is ridiculous

Like what has been said previously one hand is not going to prove that he cheated, but when you look at it as a whole it is pretty obvious imo.


or it's phil hellmuth

[LiveNow]

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I'd be thinking about taking this off youtube if you know what I mean.

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yeah this really sucks for online poker imho

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It's also ammo for the government to show that these sites aren't safe and they need to take more action.

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or it could make them act to regulate the industry? heh, doubt it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Lyric]

Cheating happens in real casinos too. It's not the end of the world.

[apefish]

Let's add "the account belongs to a former higher up in the Absolute Poker organization" to the reasons why this could be cheating.

Seriously people- stop looking at any hand in vacuum. The entire hand history makes almost no sense from any play perspective other than "he knows what people have".


edit: fluff- that wasnt directed at you. I had reached end of page and just wanted to post.

[ibluffoldladies]

I think another video should be added that just shows the really bad hands. Since this is getting more exposure, the casual reader isn't going to watch 130 hands of poker.