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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I just saw on Fox news that the Israeli troops appear to be pulling out of Lebanon as I type this. [/ QUOTE ] I guess they are trying their best to accommodate Mason's timeline. [/ QUOTE ] I guess I'm going to have to turn on fox news to determine if that was a ban request... [/ QUOTE ] You can ban me if you want to. Shepard Smith did say it on Fox News though. I know 2 other people who heard and saw the same thing I did. If that gets me banned, so be it. Have a great day! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Apparently Lebanon has rejected the UN resolution being put forth by France and the US. Sounds to me they arent too eager to put an end to this conflict.
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LW... you can relax, the comment wasn't to you...
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Apparently Lebanon has rejected the UN resolution being put forth by France and the US. Sounds to me they arent too eager to put an end to this conflict. [/ QUOTE ] Or they simply didn't agree to the terms of the resolution. |
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UN peacekeepers were dispatched Friday to evacuate about 350 Lebanese soldiers and police detained by IDF forces in Marjayoun a day after the IDF swept into the southern Lebanese town, security officials said.
Two armored vehicles from the UN Interim Force in Lebanon, a 2,000-member peacekeeping force deployed in southern Lebanon, headed to Marjayoun, taken by IDF forces on Thursday. They will escort the Lebanese troops out of their Marjayoun barracks in a convoy that will take them into government-controlled territory further north, the Lebanese security officials said. On Thursday, Interior Minister Ahmed Fatfat said Israeli troops entered the garrison in Marjayoun in the afternoon "and asked to share it with Lebanese troops there." He said the troops refused and wanted to leave, but the Israelis did not let them. "We consider them captives," Fatfat said, adding that the government was trying to win their release. Lebanese and Arab media reports said that France and the United States intervened to arrange for the evacuation of the Lebanese troops. There are more than 1,000 Lebanese troops in southern Lebanon conducting security duties. But Hizbullah guerrillas actually control the south. |
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A new obstacle arose over the latest UN draft proposal to stop the fighting between Israel and Lebanon on Thursday night, when the latter refused to allow the French to enforce its mandate as allowed by the UN's chapter VII regulations.
Lebanese Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh said in an interview with Al-Jazeera news station that he was opposed to the draft proposal because it did not call for an immediate cease-fire. "We received France's draft proposal and the United States' draft proposal," he said, "and neither of the two drafts addressed [the issue of] an immediate cease-fire. This is unacceptable to us." |
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funny clip from the Daliy Show
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What exactly would a cease fire accomplish? Is there any real solution to solving this problem or is the best that can be expected in a slow low grade simmer for the next 20 years?
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Last night driving to my room from Bay 101 I heard a talk show argue:
1. The war on Iraq has shattered the myth of American Military and invincibility in the World 2. The war on Lebanon has shattered the myth of Israeli Military superiority and invincibility in the Middle East. Essentially saying that both the operations failed to fulfill the ultimate objectives of the two aggressor parties despite thousands dead, millions uprooted and billions spent. Comments? |
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The war on Iraq has shattered the myth of American Military and invincibility in the World [/ QUOTE ]Regardless of what one thinks of whether we should have fought in Iraq, this is 100% pure silliness for the following reasons: 1) The US could turn parts or the whole of Iraq into a giant parking lot. The enemy does not have this capability to do to the U.S. 2) The US death toll is extremely low for a war of this magnitude and length. 3) Many of the US deaths are a tradeoff between killing masses of civilians versus several US soldier deaths 4) The enemy is capturing zero ground 5) The enemy is winning no real battles. At best they win some very low grade ambushes. 6) The US military operates at will in Iraq 7) The US miliary sliced through the Iraq army like it wasnt even there. 8) There is zero chance of an enemy military overall win Now, I think you could argue that the military is vulnerable to a propoganda war, but that is a much different thing. 2. To the Israeli army. I can't say much because I dont know anything about them. However, I would be cautous of the journalist class that proclaims who is winning and who is losing. The conflict is only a couple of days old and the deaths are extremely light on I believe both sides. I remember how the media potrayed the US as being in a quagmire in Afghanistan because it took more than 24 hours to win. I am not saying that the Israeli army is up to the task. I am simply saying you cant draw any conclusions yet. |
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