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03-30-2007, 04:30 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I bet if you polled all those vetern workers 6 months ago, the majority would have said that 'unions were a good thing, but their time has passed, no need for them in today's world'. LOL [/ QUOTE ] WTF is a union going to do for people who are already fired? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think waiting until you are fired is the time to start thinking about organizing. Traditionally, unions provide assistance to their unemployed workers. [/ QUOTE ] Assistance how? So all the money the employees gave into the union comes back to them minus fees? Yay? [/ QUOTE ] Assistance in finding new employment. Assistance with additional training to make yourself more marketable. Etc. [/ QUOTE ] Until the money that you paid them for this runs out. I would much rather just have kept the money in the first place and spend it for this if the situation comes up. 
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#62
03-30-2007, 04:40 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I bet if you polled all those vetern workers 6 months ago, the majority would have said that 'unions were a good thing, but their time has passed, no need for them in today's world'. LOL [/ QUOTE ] WTF is a union going to do for people who are already fired? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think waiting until you are fired is the time to start thinking about organizing. Traditionally, unions provide assistance to their unemployed workers. [/ QUOTE ] Assistance how? So all the money the employees gave into the union comes back to them minus fees? Yay? [/ QUOTE ] Assistance in finding new employment. Assistance with additional training to make yourself more marketable. Etc. [/ QUOTE ] Until the money that you paid them for this runs out. I would much rather just have kept the money in the first place and spend it for this if the situation comes up. [/ QUOTE ] So you are building a education and training center? You have a employment counseling specialist on retainer? WOW.
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#63
03-30-2007, 05:35 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Until the money that you paid them for this runs out. I would much rather just have kept the money in the first place and spend it for this if the situation comes up. [/ QUOTE ] So you are building a education and training center? You have a employment counseling specialist on retainer? WOW. [/ QUOTE ] I don't pay honda a monthy fee, then get a car when the situation arises that requires me to have one. I just pay them for the car when I need it. Amazingly, I don't have to build a car factory, develop a distribution network, or have any auto assemblers on retainer. WOW.
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#64
03-30-2007, 05:59 PM
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So Honda is going to give you financial assistance, help find you a new job, and give you training, plus provide a pension when you retire?
WOW! What car dealer did you buy it from?
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#65
03-30-2007, 06:25 PM
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So Honda is going to give you financial assistance, help find you a new job, and give you training, plus provide a pension when you retire? WOW! What car dealer did you buy it from? [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're being purposefully obtuse.
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#66
03-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So then why are *unions* needed to stop that? [/ QUOTE ] Because at the time, nobody else was. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] No, I guess I don't. Please elaborate. Why would the American worker be better off today if unions hadn't fought for better, safer working conditions and wages?
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#67
03-30-2007, 07:04 PM
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Re: Circuit City much worse than Walmart
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So then why are *unions* needed to stop that? [/ QUOTE ] Because at the time, nobody else was. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] No, I guess I don't. Please elaborate. Why would the American worker be better off today if unions hadn't fought for better, safer working conditions and wages? [/ QUOTE ] Their jobs wouldn't be in Mexico/China/etc...
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#68
03-30-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: Circuit City much worse than Walmart
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So then why are *unions* needed to stop that? [/ QUOTE ] Because at the time, nobody else was. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] No, I guess I don't. Please elaborate. Why would the American worker be better off today if unions hadn't fought for better, safer working conditions and wages? [/ QUOTE ] I don't have any idea; since I didn't claim that, asking me to explain it seems strange.
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#69
03-30-2007, 07:46 PM
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No, I guess I don't. Please elaborate. Why would the American worker be better off today if unions hadn't fought for better, safer working conditions and wages? [/ QUOTE ] I think the point that PVN is making is that in this situation the union represented a private security firm because the government monopoly wasnt allowing people to form voluntary groups. But hey I suppose private security firms are a bad idea because everything will just devolve into chaos and anarchy like this situation did. We wouldnt want the country falling apart would we? If we dont have a monopolistic legal system how will everybody get along?
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#70
03-31-2007, 06:24 AM
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Wow! I just have to say this thread has some of the funniest exchanges/snappy responses I've ever seen on 2+2!
here are my favorites: [ QUOTE ] Me too. It implies they were needed at some point. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Interesting. DUCY? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't pay honda a monthy fee, then get a car when the situation arises that requires me to have one. I just pay them for the car when I need it. Amazingly, I don't have to build a car factory, develop a distribution network, or have any auto assemblers on retainer. WOW. [/ QUOTE ] Just a lurker putting up a compliment. Carry on.
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