Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

[Silent A]

Someone at the PLO forum linked this thread.

I posted these numbers from my database once:

From my recent database, hands/VPP at various levels at PokerStars for PLO are:

Big Blind = 0.02, hands/VPP = 210 *
Big Blind = 0.05, hands/VPP = 17 *
Big Blind = 0.10, hands/VPP = 7.8
Big Blind = 0.25, hands/VPP = 3.8
Big Blind = 0.50, hands/VPP = 2.3
Big Blind = 1.00, hands/VPP = 1.4
Big Blind = 2.00, hands/VPP = 0.86
Big Blind = 4.00, hands/VPP = 0.86 *
Big Blind = 6.00, hands/VPP = 0.68 *
Big Blind = 10.0, hands/VPP = 0.58 **

* indicates: less than 1000 hands at this level
** indicates: less than 100 hands at this level

These aren't sorted for 6-max vs. full ring (the higher levels are all full ring, and so are most of the lower ones).

[derosnec]

.25nl 6max: .09 vpps (63,000 hands)

.50nl 6max: .19 vpps (98,000 hands)

.5/1 limit 6max: .15 vpps (11,000 hands)

[tautomer]

.50/1.00 Full Ring NL: .426 VPP/hand, 68000 hands
.50/1.00 6max NL: .431 VPP/hand, 15000 hands
1/2 Full Ring NL: .618 VPP/hand, 27000 hands

.50/1.00 PLO full ring: .634 VPP/hand, 20000 hands
1/2 PLO full ring: .949 VPP/hand, 20000 hands

[GSykes]

These don't include the 2x bonus for super nove these are just base VPPs right?

[GSykes]

My buddy says over 25k hands of 200nl FR he gets .518 VPP per hand.

[tautomer]

Just base points.

[HedonismBot]

.71VPP/hand at 5/10NL 6max

[MicroBob]

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My buddy says over 25k hands of 200nl FR he gets .518 VPP per hand.

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difference between .518 and .618 on that game can depend on game-selection including time of day you are playing as well as your own aggressiveness.

Still though, this does seem like a pretty significant difference even when trying to account for sample-size.

Is buddy just looking at PT? Is he remembering that he gets double-points for max-rake hands?

[GSykes]

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My buddy says over 25k hands of 200nl FR he gets .518 VPP per hand.

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difference between .518 and .618 on that game can depend on game-selection including time of day you are playing as well as your own aggressiveness.

Still though, this does seem like a pretty significant difference even when trying to account for sample-size.

Is buddy just looking at PT? Is he remembering that he gets double-points for max-rake hands?

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I gave him the directions and he gave me the numbers back (he is not 2+2)

[tautomer]

I usually move around to better games in holdem if the table gets nitty or if I'm totally card dead in a seat, PLO has fewer games going so I just stick it out.