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Old 06-10-2007, 12:26 PM
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Hey if anyone can trade me 200 on PS for my 200 on Party in time for a 12:45 tourney I'd appreciate it.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:36 PM
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And I was only getting my money in when I had good equity against AA/KK.

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twp i am a fan but srsly?

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seriously. there are a lot of two heart flops where i have good equity when called and i thought there was also a decent chance he might fold to a semi-bluff. i dont really see what the issue is. he only raised $300 when the pot was already 800 and we had 3k left behind. and maybe you didn't see that I was stuck? it's a well known principle that it's +EV to gambool when you're stuck. you either get back to even and feel great or you get more stuck and feel just as bad.
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:13 PM
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Reef,

That [censored] is useless and no one cares. Stop sucking at poker.

Thanks.

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I thought it was established that the "all in before river" had merit? If not I'll stop posting these [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:33 PM
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Reef,

That [censored] is useless and no one cares. Stop sucking at poker.

Thanks.

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I thought it was established that the "all in before river" had merit? If not I'll stop posting these [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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only if you're short stacking

and even then, if i only shove 32o and win 20% of the time, i'd be "running bad" according to the program but it doesnt mean i'm not playing like a complete retard
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:44 PM
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Anyone who wants to trade like $500 on ftp for stars money pm me
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:11 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Reef,

That [censored] is useless and no one cares. Stop sucking at poker.

Thanks.

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I thought it was established that the "all in before river" had merit? If not I'll stop posting these [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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It shows that you are running bad by a certain amount, not necessarily playing well/profitable.

Like, if you filtered for preflop AIs only, you could only shove AA and obv be profitable but still runbad. You would have positive equity, doesnt mean you play well.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:16 PM
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Reef,

That [censored] is useless and no one cares. Stop sucking at poker.

Thanks.

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I thought it was established that the "all in before river" had merit? If not I'll stop posting these [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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only if you're short stacking

and even then, if i only shove 32o and win 20% of the time, i'd be "running bad" according to the program but it doesnt mean i'm not playing like a complete retard

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in the example, wont your expected win line be negative?

true that it cant tell all the fine details of play (yet) , and the how-much-are-you-getting-coolered part of the program isn't out yet , but I still think it tells if a player is playing +EV poker or not.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:50 PM
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I dont expect any program ever to be able to completely gauge how well a player plays (esp since its a game of incomplete information among other things) .. but I do believe it gives an accurate (to some extent) indication of how someone is running.. we'll see even more of the capabilities with the 'luck' tab in pokerev soon.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:08 PM
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I dont expect any program ever to be able to completely gauge how well a player plays (esp since its a game of incomplete information among other things) .. but I do believe it gives an accurate (to some extent) indication of how someone is running.. we'll see even more of the capabilities with the 'luck' tab in pokerev soon.

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I guess my big issue with all of this is who the [censored] cares? All it does it make me people not look at their game as much which I guess is great for your opponents but can't be good for you.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:29 PM
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[censored] donkaments


PS- Reef stop worrying about how bad you run in the EV calc, and start trying to get better. its getting a little old.
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