Sopranos Season Finale Discussion - Page 65

Pudge714 · #**641** 10-23-2007, 10:22 PM

Ugh this is definitely some marketing ploy to buy the book. BTW it worked for me

astroglide · #**642** 10-23-2007, 10:28 PM

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He says that Tony wasn't killed at the end

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o rly? this quote indicates immediate ambiguity, not life or death:

<font color="green">There was nothing definite about what happened, but there was a clean trend on view — a definite sense of what Tony and Carmela's future looks like. Whether it happened that night or some other night doesn't really matter.</font>

Hopey · #**643** 10-23-2007, 10:38 PM

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He says that Tony wasn't killed at the end

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o rly? this quote indicates immediate ambiguity, not life or death:

<font color="green">There was nothing definite about what happened, but there was a clean trend on view — a definite sense of what Tony and Carmela's future looks like. Whether it happened that night or some other night doesn't really matter.</font>

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You're right. Chase doesn't really say one way or other whether Tony was killed. I hadn't read the full interview, what I had read was the CNN article about the interview.

In the article, it states:

"He strongly suggests that, no, Tony Soprano didn't get whacked moments later as he munched onion rings with his family at Holsten's."

However, the text from the interview doesn't really bear this out.

astroglide · #**644** 10-23-2007, 10:40 PM

yeah, it does look like the ew version is presented much better.

i don't think i'd ever read a book on the sopranos, but i would like to look at this section sometime when i'm at borders.

Los Feliz Slim · #**645** 10-23-2007, 10:41 PM

[censored] David Chase. He comes off like a total assbagel in this excerpt.

Jay Riall · #**646** 10-23-2007, 11:14 PM

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[censored] David Chase. He comes off like a total assbagel in this excerpt.

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From responses like this one I think Chase's only mistake was this - 'We always operated as though people don't need to be spoon-fed every single thing.'

Jay Riall · #**647** 10-23-2007, 11:16 PM

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In this case it appears to be the opposite though; Chase is annoyed that people are delving into it so much.

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I think he's mainly annoyed that a lot of peoples questioning and time is spent on the 'Does Tony die in the Diner' issue. Which is completely missing the point.

nazahl · #**648** 10-23-2007, 11:22 PM

"The pathetic thing -- to me -- was how much they wanted HIS blood, after cheering him on for eight years"

Chase really sounds like a douche in this line.

wow, people would want some sort of closure to a series they spent 8 years watching, instead of a totally ambiguous ending which leaves you with the "wtf? robbed" feeling that the finale produced. what a shock.

4 High · #**649** 10-23-2007, 11:26 PM

I still love the finale, but after reading this it kind of takes it away. How could he make that episode and then get upset at peoples reactions? I mean seriously he had to know.

Jay Riall · #**650** 10-23-2007, 11:30 PM

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I still love the finale, but after reading this it kind of takes it away. How could he make that episode and then get upset at peoples reactions? I mean seriously he had to know.

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Nah, I think he just gave his fans too much credit.

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"The pathetic thing -- to me -- was how much they wanted HIS blood, after cheering him on for eight years"

Chase really sounds like a douche in this line.

wow, people would want some sort of closure to a series they spent 8 years watching, instead of a totally ambiguous ending which leaves you with the "wtf? robbed" feeling that the finale produced. what a shock.

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What gets you thinking more? A bullet in the head and Tony's life is over. End of Story. Or Tony's life goes on and you get to think of all the rammifications and consequences that go with it. Chase is trying to give fans creidt for outside thinking and interpretation, but most of them just want to know the pretty trivial question of 'is he dead or what?'

Another example - The Godfather. The book or the first film as a stand-alone movie. What is more powerful - the door closing on Kay at the end, while the capos kiss Micheal's hand, or an ending where one of Barzini's goons rushes in and guns down Micheal? I think this is a kinda similar situation to the ending of the Sopranos.