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Old 06-27-2007, 10:44 AM
mason55 mason55 is offline
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There's something so uniquely terrible about murdering children, especially your own, that child murderers seem to end up in their own category. Like that guy who killed all those Amish kids - he was so clearly insane, and the Amish were so matter-of-fact about the ordeal, that he was quickly forgotten.

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Wow I totally forgot about the Amish guy.

I wonder if some of these people didn't kill themselves so that we could see how insane they were if they would have more pity. For example I think at this point everyone just feels sad for Andrea Yates since we can really see how crazy she is. If Benoit hadn't killed himself and we could see that he just completely lost his mind and wasn't in some steroid rage if people would be a little less harsh.

I have to assume so.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:45 AM
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http://prowrestling.about.com/od/wha...lersdeaths.htm

can we get a list of popular wrestlers from the 1980-1995 who are still alive? I cant believe how many are dead.

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Jake the Snake is my Myspace friend

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that's a shocking list.....candido, bigelow, big dick dudley...i had no idea some of those dudes had died....christ.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:48 AM
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-wrestling27jun27,1,3544775.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

""A chokehold," Ballard said, "was used to strangle the boy rather than hands, because there's no bruising consistent with a strangling by hands.""

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I'm following this on a wrestling message board as well. Several hours ago a poster (apparently credible with the mods there) with contacts with some media and/or investigating officals says the 7-year old Daniel had bruises investigators couldn't understand. Then, they saw some WWE footage of Benoit and concluded that Benoit killed his son using the Crippler Crossface.

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The Crossface isn't a chokehold. And the poster isn't reliable.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:50 AM
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There's something so uniquely terrible about murdering children, especially your own, that child murderers seem to end up in their own category. Like that guy who killed all those Amish kids - he was so clearly insane, and the Amish were so matter-of-fact about the ordeal, that he was quickly forgotten.

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Wow I totally forgot about the Amish guy.

I wonder if some of these people didn't kill themselves so that we could see how insane they were if they would have more pity. For example I think at this point everyone just feels sad for Andrea Yates since we can really see how crazy she is. If Benoit hadn't killed himself and we could see that he just completely lost his mind and wasn't in some steroid rage if people would be a little less harsh.

I have to assume so.

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is him killing himself evidence that he didnt completely lose his mind?
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:09 AM
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its hard to believe that he didnt have any control over his actions.

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i don't believe that any of us have control over our actions. but it helps to pretend that we do.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:19 AM
xxThe_Lebowskixx xxThe_Lebowskixx is offline
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its hard to believe that he didnt have any control over his actions.

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i don't believe that any of us have control over our actions. but it helps to pretend that we do.

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so what then? the devil crawled inside his soul?
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:22 AM
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its hard to believe that he didnt have any control over his actions.

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i don't believe that any of us have control over our actions. but it helps to pretend that we do.

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Semanticaments. Clearly something is in control of our our actions (even if that something is purely deterministic laws of physics), so we might as well call that something "us".
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:24 AM
BowToYourSensei BowToYourSensei is offline
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i don't know just how calculated this can be considering how bizzare the texts were and his excuse of the wife vomiting blood + the wife being tied up. one thing led to another and he tried to cover his tracks badly it looks like.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:31 AM
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What a waste will go down as a murdering scumbag to me. How do you kill your 7 year old kid.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:36 AM
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What a waste will go down as a murdering scumbag to me. How do you kill your 7 year old kid.

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With the Crippler Crossface, apparently.
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