Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

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Doesn't matter how lame his nickname is. He named his kid Shea. That's [censored] awesome.

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Is Shea Hillenbrand awesome?

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I bet his dad was.

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[James282]

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I don't know how to convert these numbers to a run value, but here are some updated fielding numbers from HBT:

RZR = Revised Zone Rating is the proportion of balls hit into a fielder's zone that he successfully converted into an out. Doesn't include bonuses for DBs or plays made outside of the zone.
OOZ = Out Of Zone, or the total number of outs made by a fielder on balls hit outside of his zone.

Listings are name, RZR (RZR rank at their position in NL) OOZ (OOZ rank at their position in NL)

Ramirez: .774 (last) 44 (t-9th)
Wright: .697 (5th) 77 (1st)
Jones: .642 (7th) 55 (4th)
Pujols: .846 (1st) 49 (1st)
Utley: .876 (1st) 47 (4th)
Holliday: .900 (2nd) 46 (t-2nd)

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given that these statistics are relatively accurate, defensively Holliday is one of the best NL outfielders, and clearly he's in the top 3-5 of the best hitters this year in the NL as well. how in the world is this guy not getting any love?

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Because Wright is a good hitting, good fielding 3b, which is harder to find than a good hitting, good fielding corner outfielder. Also, his 10 points of obp + 31 steals at a ridiculous clip more than make up for Holliday's lead in SLG. Also, Wright plays in an extreme pitcher's park, where Holliday plays in an extreme hitter's park. Holliday deserves consideration to be sure, but Wright has simply had a better season(for a better team, if that matters to you).

James

[Jack of Arcades]

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Doesn't matter how lame his nickname is. He named his kid Shea. That's [censored] awesome.

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Is Shea Hillenbrand awesome?

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You have to be a Braves/Mets fan to get it. Chipper owns the Mets, and he owns Shea stadium. He has 19 HR there.

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Holliday 2 more homers so far today. Loving my preseason props on him vs. Sizemore and him vs. Crawford. Ship it!

[NajdorfDefense]

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If the Phillies sneak in it's Utley without any question. Otherwise, Wright.

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[g-bebe]

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You have to be a Braves/Mets fan to get it. Chipper owns the Mets, and he owns Shea stadium. He has 19 HR there.

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ah, I see

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Holliday 2 more homers so far today. Loving my preseason props on him vs. Sizemore and him vs. Crawford. Ship it!

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zomg, go Holliday

[Benholio]

Holliday:

Leading the NL in batting average (.340), RBI (128), extra-base hits (88), total bases (367), hits (204) and doubles (48).

[dkgojackets]

.376/.434/.722 home
.303/.370/.497 away

Coors Field for MVP.