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#51
07-03-2007, 04:46 PM
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Re: Moral of the Story
What's the deal with the breaking in "high limit gaming area".
No cameras in the hallways are one thing (more or less standard in hotels), but how was this brazen theft of 10K chips in a GAMING area not caught on film??? Something's not right here or we're missing part of the story. 
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#52
07-03-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
LOL DIDS OWNAGE
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#53
07-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: Moral of the Story
I'm trying to figure out why you are offering 1/2 of it to charity....how does that figure in here? Is that just being balla?
What does it matter what you do with the money...its yours and for your purposes, why should it make a difference whether its going to charity or not.... I totally believe your story and wish you full justice but by offering half to charity you could be setting a seed of doubt as to whether this could be fraud or not.... its like lying about losing $32k then offering to only take half as long as the problem can get resolved meanwhile $16k profit.... good luck tho...
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#54
07-03-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
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The fine print somewhere (on the door?) says the safe is insured for only $750 and that is all the hotel is responsible for. If you did not know this, thats your fault. [/ QUOTE ] Ummmmmmm, no. 1. If he didn't know this it was the RIOs fault, not his. (Unless he signed a contract indicating he had read and understood the back-of-the-door fine print, which is unlikely since anything he signed would have happened before he was in the room, and that's not very likely to hold up anyway.) 2. If a reasonable person would expect the safe to be secure, then RIO may be at fault for not providing the expected level of security. 3. It sounds like it may be an inside job. If the safe wasn't forced but instead accessed through some method that employees can use, then its possible to find the RIO negligent (since they "know" this sort of thing is possible but do nothing to protect their customers). My guess is the RIO has some history of getting off the hook here, so I doubt anything is a slam dunk no matter how atrociously they are acting. I would recommend to stop posting, get a good lawyer, and make as big a ruckus in the media as you can.
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#55
07-03-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
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Why do they have the safes in the rooms if you aren't really supposed to use them? What are people storing in them that they don't care if they lose or not? I bet they'd catch you if you tried swiping some towels on your checkout. [/ QUOTE ] You are only supposed to leave things in there at are worth, at most, $750. Above that, it is the same as leaving it on the dresser.
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#57
07-03-2007, 04:52 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
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[ QUOTE ] 1. I posted up over $40k when I checked in with my VIP Host. [/ QUOTE ] Does this mean that someone in the hotel knew about the money being in the room? It really seems like an inside job here, I don't know how common safe theft is, but it seems like a pretty high risk deal that would only be undertaken given a.) they knew there was big $ in the safe and b.) that OP would not be in the room. very, very fishy. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking when I was reading this. Why your room? Lucky score? Were they following the maid down the hall and knew how to open all the safes, got to yours and went "Holy Crap! 32k!!!" figured the day was done, left the safe open and bolted?
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#58
07-03-2007, 04:52 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
Vegas C.S.I. demonstated how easy it was to open the safe , They are still doing an investigation, but the code was changed and relocked open. Like I said many times , I am not saying it was the smartest thing to do to leave that kind of cash in a hotel room safe, and No I am not giving Harrah's an easy out , I am giving them a chance to make it right. I have turned down many media news interviews and only posted on here because my friend Allen Kessler suggested it might be a good idea. I am not an idiot that just fell of a truck , I trusted that the safe was secure and if it was more than 30's ish I would have used the Cage safe but like many said , they are not secure either from what I have learned. Harrah's will not get off easy, I am giving them a chance to make thing right. I am not a media hound or this would of already been all over the news by now in Vegas. I wanted this to be handled Professionally and Quietly within the Harrah's Management. I am guessing that was not a good choice on my part. My main website and other Pro's suggested that I do not go to the media and I followed that advice. I appreciate the feedback and I am very thicked skinned, but don't reply with stupid things like I deserved to be stolen from, no one deserves to be stolen from that works hard in grinding it out in a world that is tough enough as playing live poker.
Have a winning day! -EF
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#59
07-03-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Moral of the Story
(a) I really hope English isn't your first language [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
(b) I would certainly put that amount of money in a box at the cage. (c) Nevertheless, I really feel for you. Harrah's are just showing yet again what a bunch of morons they have for management, and I am even more surprised that they would act like this with a high-roller, whose business you'd think they would value more than the average schmuck. As others have said, get a lawyer (though that fine print on the door may get you) but more importantly, make a BIG stink in the media about this. (d) After the Brodie tale, tent/ registration etc fiascos and now this, although I've always wanted to go the WSOP, I can safely (and sadly) say that I am never going anywhere near the Rio in my life [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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#60
07-03-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Large THEFT! Rio Hotel Las Vegas 6/29/07
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The fine print somewhere (on the door?) says the safe is insured for only $750 and that is all the hotel is responsible for. If you did not know this, thats your fault. [/ QUOTE ] 1. If he didn't know this it was the RIOs fault, not his. (Unless he signed a contract indicating he had read and understood the back-of-the-door fine print, which is unlikely since anything he signed would have happened before he was in the room, and that's not very likely to hold up anyway.) 2. If a reasonable person would expect the safe to be secure, then RIO may be at fault for not providing the expected level of security. 3. It sounds like it may be an inside job. If the safe wasn't forced but instead accessed through some method that employees can use, then its possible to find the RIO negligent (since they "know" this sort of thing is possible but do nothing to protect their customers). My guess is the RIO has some history of getting off the hook here, so I doubt anything is a slam dunk no matter how atrociously they are acting. I would recommend to stop posting, get a good lawyer, and make as big a ruckus in the media as you can. [/ QUOTE ] Please, do you think this is a tad naive sir? Do you think this is the first time this has happened? The casinos had these angles covered along time ago. The casinos have lots of legal muscle and know there way around the Nevada court system. Save your 1L analysis for the bar exam.
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