Another FT Sweat: NOT the 109r, just a fuper

[THAY3R]

His opening range determines how often you should reshove, but his opening range has absolutely nothing to do with what hands you should be shoving with.

Sorry if that wasn't obvious.

[aejones]

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His opening range determines how often you should reshove, but his opening range has absolutely nothing to do with what hands you should be shoving with.

Sorry if that wasn't obvious.

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A2 is in the range that makes up the frequency with which I should reshove.

[THAY3R]

Then maybe it shouldn't be since A2 is awful against his calling range.

I'm not saying you should nit up, I'm sure what you feel to be the correct reshove frequency is correct. I am just trying to say A2 shouldn't be in it.

[aejones]

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Then maybe it shouldn't be since A2 is awful against his calling range.

I'm not saying you should nit up, I'm sure what you feel to be the correct reshove frequency is correct. I am just trying to say A2 shouldn't be in it.

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Then disagreement there shall be!

[Soulman]

Fair range:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.729% 30.51% 01.22% 683220504 27422712.00 { A2o }
Hand 1: 68.271% 67.05% 01.22% 1501627704 27422712.00 { 55+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.553% 34.23% 00.33% 276618048 2639922.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 65.447% 65.12% 00.33% 526309596 2639922.00 { 55+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }



Tight range:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.010% 25.89% 01.12% 367022892 15926214.00 { A2o }
Hand 1: 72.990% 71.87% 01.12% 1018912392 15926214.00 { 77+, AQs+, AQo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.779% 27.45% 00.33% 116547032 1415160.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 72.221% 71.89% 00.33% 305274040 1415160.00 { 77+, AQs+, AQo }


Obv the suited connector is sooooooooooooooo much stronger than A2o....not.

If villain opens pretty much, but only calls with the tight range (~top 5%) pushing A2o is clearly correct anyway since you'll have huge FE. And if villain calls with the 'fair' range, the difference between 87s and A2o is small enough for a push to be correct anyway.

[mlagoo]

your "fair range" doesnt include near enough Ax's. aejones has 14BBs.

[Soulman]

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your "fair range" doesnt include near enough Ax's. aejones has 14BBs.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.790% 27.75% 05.04% 980783328 178069602.00 { A2o }
Hand 1: 67.210% 62.17% 05.04% 2197272924 178069602.00 { 55+, A5s+, KQs, A6o+, KQo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.583% 36.19% 00.40% 480833100 5265978.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 63.417% 63.02% 00.40% 837382848 5265978.00 { 55+, A5s+, KQs, A6o+, KQo }

A bit of a difference (1%), but not enough to make pushing with A2o incorrect I believe...

Edit: wrong paste

[mlagoo]

yeah i think we have this discussion once every couple of months and are forced to remember that the whole myth of the power of suited connectors is, for the most part, just that.

not to mention Ax has the added advantage of their being less Ax's in the deck.

[Matt24]

fair range should ahve 22-44 in it, since when did people start folding pairs to resteals?

[mlagoo]

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fair range should ahve 22-44 in it, since when did people start folding pairs to resteals?

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yeah yer right i didnt even notice that. once again, 14BBs. people aren't folding real hands here. calling range may even include some more two-broadway hands