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Old 04-05-2007, 04:15 PM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Real donkish or a heck of a try?... Depends on how you view it I guess?

If I saw that hand prior to the one we are dicussing... I would shove with the AKo.

And to answer above I will fold AKo occasionally as well.... but usually it's when there's a multiway pot that a number of people are all in on already.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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Real donkish or a heck of a try?... Depends on how you view it I guess?

If I saw that hand prior to the one we are dicussing... I would shove with the AKo.

And to answer above I will fold AKo occasionally as well.... but usually it's when there's a multiway pot that a number of people are all in on already.

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We have AKs.

Did anyone read my post? Shoving is only good if for some reason he will fold 3-betting hands to a 4-bet; i.e. if you can move him off all of his bluffs PF, or if you think he'd fold a pair here ever. It's also good if for some reason Sheets thinks of himself as a poor hand reader and will just fold any flop he totally whiffs.

I really think shoving is only good if you have a decent expectation he'll fold a certain % of his hands he raises with. Someone more math-inclined than me can do it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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I really think shoving is only good if you have a decent expectation he'll fold a certain % of his hands he raises with. Someone more math-inclined than me can do it.

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I'm not maths inclined but he's folding enough to make it +EV. I mean, tight and all, are we really saying that with these stacks he's only three-betting/restealing an lp pf raiser with TT+/AQ+? If so, then, yeah, call because he is folding AQ and nothing else. If anything else is more than, say, 5% of his range, pushing is +EV.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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Shoving is only good if for some reason he will fold 3-betting hands to a 4-bet; i.e. if you can move him off all of his bluffs PF, or if you think he'd fold a pair here ever.

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Both of these are certainly true.

Hands he 3bet/folds: AT, AJ, AQ, KQ, pairs 22-99, Air
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Guys my comments about folding on 445 2spade flop were light hearted and not serious loll. But, the relevance is how weak/tight sheets plays postflop at times which is why shoving is better for him as he may fold on J10x 1 spade flops where I think shoving is better.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Weak tight pwns

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Old 04-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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Real donkish or a heck of a try?... Depends on how you view it I guess?

If I saw that hand prior to the one we are dicussing... I would shove with the AKo.

And to answer above I will fold AKo occasionally as well.... but usually it's when there's a multiway pot that a number of people are all in on already.

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We have AKs.

Did anyone read my post? Shoving is only good if for some reason he will fold 3-betting hands to a 4-bet; i.e. if you can move him off all of his bluffs PF, or if you think he'd fold a pair here ever. It's also good if for some reason Sheets thinks of himself as a poor hand reader and will just fold any flop he totally whiffs.

I really think shoving is only good if you have a decent expectation he'll fold a certain % of his hands he raises with. Someone more math-inclined than me can do it.

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With sheets' image I think a 4-bet folds a lot of small-mid pairs so he should do that.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Though I have to say that calling and pushing over a lot of c-bets is also interesting... Especially if he thinks we play big pairs that way.
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Old 04-06-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

Haven't read through the opinions yet, but I'd say call and play a flop most times...Vs Matt, I'd fold if I was out of position.
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Old 04-06-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: akss in position facing reraise from the blinds...seems close to m

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I can't see if anyone has mentioned this... but Mattg tends to play fairly tight as far as those p5s mtt guys go. Dunno how light you can really expect him to be raising here.

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this is correct...
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