5/10 River Descion

[TheWorstPlayer]

except for flush draws...lol

[Lefort]

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except for flush draws...lol

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lol true that... stupid non-converted hands...

[good2cu]

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200bb deep, to assume g2cu always 3-bets JJ OOP would be a big mistake. In fact, I would assume it's more like 50/50. and it is enough of a consideration for me to turn a call for QQ (which I definitely think is a very crying call) into a muck for TT. I would definitely very seriously consider mucking QQ, too, though. Very very rarely will someone c/r THIS river without a flush or at least the nut straight. PFR has shown a lot of strength here and essentially disregard for the flush which g2cu could so easily have. In fact, I think check/raising anything but the nuts here is pretty bad against most opponents. And yes, a check/raise bluff here would be very good. But check/calling flop and turn and then checking the river with a hand with no showdown value is very very bad.

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I could never ever ever ever have the nut straight here. Give me a break.

[BalugaWhale]

lol raising the river is terrible

i'd def c/r the turn though

or maybe i'd lead the turn, i dunno

[KRANTZ]

c/r on the river is so [censored] bad

[TheWorstPlayer]

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200bb deep, to assume g2cu always 3-bets JJ OOP would be a big mistake. In fact, I would assume it's more like 50/50. and it is enough of a consideration for me to turn a call for QQ (which I definitely think is a very crying call) into a muck for TT. I would definitely very seriously consider mucking QQ, too, though. Very very rarely will someone c/r THIS river without a flush or at least the nut straight. PFR has shown a lot of strength here and essentially disregard for the flush which g2cu could so easily have. In fact, I think check/raising anything but the nuts here is pretty bad against most opponents. And yes, a check/raise bluff here would be very good. But check/calling flop and turn and then checking the river with a hand with no showdown value is very very bad.

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I could never ever ever ever have the nut straight here. Give me a break.

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OK. Glad you picked up on the main point of my post instead of something which was possibly implied by an off-hand comment in the middle of the post.

[Morrek]

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c/r on the river is so [censored] bad

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yup!

[shootaa]

i think im going to cr this turn most of the time, its super drawy and theres a lot you can charge. if you're worried about cring the turn, then why would you cr the river? just seems like you're putting in the same amount of money, but in a potentially worse spot (9,K,A, heart, w/e comes).

after the heart comes, cc is best, or bet/fold if he's not bluff raising here.

[ahnuld]

super standard call with the backdoor flush getting there and AK a real possibility.

[Big_Jim]

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All you guys who think he never calls with a 1 pair hand here are crazy and if you never do u are extremely exploitable.

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yikes