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02-05-2007, 09:53 PM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Increase gas tax [/ QUOTE ] Iron, Given your other positions it seems odd to me that you would favor raising an already incredibly regressive tax that is one of the biggest burdens on the working poor in America today. How do you respond to that? [/ QUOTE ] Because the pollution coming out of the working poor's car damages the earth the same as a wealthy man's hummer? [/ QUOTE ] I'll go with that. 
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#52
02-05-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Increase gas tax [/ QUOTE ] Iron, Given your other positions it seems odd to me that you would favor raising an already incredibly regressive tax that is one of the biggest burdens on the working poor in America today. How do you respond to that? [/ QUOTE ] Because the pollution coming out of the working poor's car damages the earth the same as a wealthy man's hummer? [/ QUOTE ] My, that would be treating rich and poor people the same. We can't tolerate that! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#53
02-05-2007, 09:58 PM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Increase gas tax [/ QUOTE ] Iron, Given your other positions it seems odd to me that you would favor raising an already incredibly regressive tax that is one of the biggest burdens on the working poor in America today. How do you respond to that? [/ QUOTE ] Because the pollution coming out of the working poor's car damages the earth the same as a wealthy man's hummer? [/ QUOTE ] I'll go with that. [/ QUOTE ] Well why not make it progressive? Why not make Bill Gates pay $20/gallon tax (after all he doesn't need all that money) and then give the poor free gas?
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#55
02-05-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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Well why not make it progressive? Why not make Bill Gates pay $20/gallon tax (after all he doesn't need all that money) and then give the poor free gas? [/ QUOTE ] What should be done is a gas tax with an equal rebate given every month. Gas tax + rebate = consumer is no worse off, but gas consumption decreases. For those who have studied microecon in any depth, it's the income and substitution effects at work.
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#56
02-05-2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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Ignoring the strawman, I just answered that. [/ QUOTE ] When taking ~50% of Bill Gates' income and taking ~0% of a poor person's income is reality, how could my gas analogy in any way be perceived as a strawman? I'm sure Mr. Gates would find my "strawman" scenario preferable to his real-life income tax scenario. Or are you a newly reformed advocate of the flat tax and I missed it?
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#58
02-06-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
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best rational article on Global Warming newsweek [/ QUOTE ] I found this excerpt particularly interesting and would like to hear what someone like wacki makes of it: [ QUOTE ] Nothing Americans can do to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions will make a significant impact on the global climate while every 10 days China fires up a coal-fueled generating plant big enough to power San Diego. China will construct 2,200 new coal plants by 2030. [/ QUOTE ]
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#59
02-06-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
variance
explain how <150 years of observations and 10000s years of data from ice core models(even if this is accurate, its much too smooth to judge temperatures at 100 yr intervals) is enough to prove a <2 degree increase over 100 years is statistically signifigant.
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#60
02-06-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: Global Warming: What needs to be done?
Bump because I don't like to gamble w/ my life.
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