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Old 01-22-2007, 09:42 AM
IrishPete IrishPete is offline
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

As played, you have to call the river imo. you've shown no strength the whole way through the hand so an over played Ax is very likely. bet the flop. you need to bet somewhere to get some information instead of just calling down with what may/may not be the winner.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

yeah reraise pre
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:15 AM
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As played, you have to call the river imo. you've shown no strength the whole way through the hand so an over played Ax is very likely. bet the flop. you need to bet somewhere to get some information instead of just calling down with what may/may not be the winner.

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So your putting villain on a total bluff? because no made hands you beat are value betting 3-streets...
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

don't rr pre. Sure its noly 50 hands. But we HAVE got stats, and its much more likely he's a nit than a 22/15 type, so why inflate the pot with AK when a possible nit is raising UTG?

flop is standard

turn is VERY close to a fold, but I think a call is still good. he could still be betting AK/AQ and if behind, we still have the K as an out and the gutshot.

river should be an easy fold. He's not vb AQ here, and even if he is, I think its still probably a fold!
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

What if hero had 77?
Now it is normal to bet.But do not we also lose value
from villains c-bet with crab hands?
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

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As played, you have to call the river imo. you've shown no strength the whole way through the hand so an over played Ax is very likely. bet the flop. you need to bet somewhere to get some information instead of just calling down with what may/may not be the winner.

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This is so wrong.

Just because you have called one or two streets with a good hand (that is hard to improve) you dont have to cal the next one.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:23 PM
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And as played, the river is an easy fold. Do you guys think villain is betting all three streets this hard with AQ? He is certainly going to be bluffing here VERY rarely, and is not value betting a worse hand hardly ever.

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This is spot on. Every time I convince myself it's not and call, I get shown a better hand. Betting three streets in position is a big hand from villain. AQ checks behind on either the turn or the river.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Calling down with the Nuts!

Preflop i dont like.. flop i dont really like..

meh i prob fold river as you butchered this hand bigstyle..

If he has an ace- you only beat AQ A9 A8.. he can have JT KJ QK.. anything...........

WAHHHH RR PF and BET the flop.

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:38 PM
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Preflop i dont like.. flop i dont really like..

meh i prob fold river as you butchered this hand bigstyle..

If he has an ace- you only beat AQ A9 A8.. he can have JT KJ QK.. anything...........

WAHHHH RR PF and BET the flop.

Scott

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no dont bet the flop. ok i see how everyone wants to fold here and given hte way hero played it i absolutley hate a fold. because of his play we have to call because yes villain could be value betting a worse hand here alot of the time.

had he RR pre check this flop and called then led the turn and still faced aggression, then river could be a clear fold. but in this instance because hero looks so weak i think it warrants a call.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:42 PM
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Preflop i dont like.. flop i dont really like..

meh i prob fold river as you butchered this hand bigstyle..

If he has an ace- you only beat AQ A9 A8.. he can have JT KJ QK.. anything...........

WAHHHH RR PF and BET the flop.

Scott

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no dont bet the flop. ok i see how everyone wants to fold here and given hte way hero played it i absolutley hate a fold. because of his play we have to call because yes villain could be value betting a worse hand here alot of the time.

had he RR pre check this flop and called then led the turn and still faced aggression, then river could be a clear fold. but in this instance because hero looks so weak i think it warrants a call.

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If you were villain here, would you bet all 3-streets with AQ?
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