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12-29-2006, 01:23 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
I was a big fan of everything else Dennis Miller had done.
All of his MNF stuff that I heard was 100% lame. Wasn't funny, wasn't appropriate, way too forced. 
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#52
12-29-2006, 04:21 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
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I was a big fan of everything else Dennis Miller had done. All of his MNF stuff that I heard was 100% lame. Wasn't funny, wasn't appropriate, way too forced. [/ QUOTE ] It probably helps that I'm not a big football fan.
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#53
12-29-2006, 06:36 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
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As for Moss' call, he likely read Pug for a nut flush draw and knew that an A was not an out for Pug. Moss had any nonspade K, T, A or 9 to win the hand. That's 10 outs twice or 40% equity. [/ QUOTE ] Not to hijack, but that's a pretty horrible analysis. You're forgetting the flush redraw pug has if moss hits his hand, and the fact that moss will sometimes be drawing dead after the turn. It's more like 30% equity.
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#54
12-29-2006, 11:37 PM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
In this book, McManus plays against TJ Cloutier and he restates the three rules of tournament play put forward by TJ Cloutier, I can only remember two: draws are death; don't call big bets; what is the third?
Tx in advance for any and all replies.
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#55
12-30-2006, 01:14 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
P. 188
1. Don't call big bets, fold or raise 2. Avoid trouble hands liek KQ KJ or Ax with x<K in all but the last two positions 3. Don't steal-raise or bluff in obvious positions like the SB or the button, slow play AA from there too. 4. Draws are death. I went from nowheresville to winning small tournaments with Championship NL and PL HE. Today I wonder how. Is everybody I played against that soft?
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#56
12-30-2006, 01:32 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
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P. 188 1. Don't call big bets, fold or raise 2. Avoid trouble hands liek KQ KJ or Ax with x<K in all but the last two positions 3. Don't steal-raise or bluff in obvious positions like the SB or the button, slow play AA from there too. 4. Draws are death. I went from nowheresville to winning small tournaments with Championship NL and PL HE. Today I wonder how. Is everybody I played against that soft? [/ QUOTE ] i have an issue with those rules being a little tight (but only a little in general)... and you have to steal alot when it's folded to you in CO+1, CO, button.... but i think most players would improve if they stuck to the suggested type play in slow tournaments (fairly rare for most of us) ...... most faster tournaments we play you also have to take more chances. thought i'd add this: i played dan harrington tight (i know dan loves blind steals and shifting gears) and did very well... decided i could do even better with more LAGish aggressive play, and it's been downhill. some luck for sure, but i think creative TAG gets the $$$$ (obviously TJ isn't creative TAG)
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#57
12-30-2006, 04:52 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
It's one of the more overrated poker memoirs (or whatever you want to call the genre) IMO, not because the fishy play made me blow a gasket, but because McManus was fascinated in stuff I wasn't (IE, the Binion murder case, the hyping of female players, and most of all himself). He also tends to speak with an authority on stuff he has, well, no authority on.
All-In, Biggest Game in Town, Poker Nation, Professor/Banker/Suicide King, and Aces & Kings were all superior in my opinion. I even kind of liked Katy Lederer's Poker Face and Amarillo Slim's bio better. I have preference for histories and more serious journalism though. I also hate "cute" writing and McManus's Good Jim/Bad Jim [censored] is about as cute as it gets, and the degree to which he gushes like a starry-eyed kid over Cloutier, Annie Duke and other pros, made me a little queasy. It still beats Anthony Holden's Big Deal though. Holden being one of the few poker authors who's so clueless and annoying I felt like slapping him halfway into the book.
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#59
12-31-2006, 11:53 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
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3. The play of the hand you describe happens frequently heads up in Sit and Gos and MT Tournaments. It's not some far out way to play. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that the hand was at least reasonably played. To know whether or not it was well-played you would have had to be there. But given the abilities of both players, and the fact that they were on their games enough to make the final two at a WSOP championship, it's a good bet that it was, in fact, well-played. That's really my point. Reading the commentary and holding it up to today's standards makes it sound as if Pug had no idea how to play. Honest descriptions of real poker hands never sound as incisive as textbook examples. That's not just true of poker, a lot of textbooks make real life sound easy, and you'd think the author was the world expert in his topic. In fact, he may just be a guy who's good at sounding like he knows what he's talking about.
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#60
12-31-2006, 11:57 AM
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Re: Positively Fifth Street: Confessions of a fish
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All-In, Biggest Game in Town, Poker Nation, Professor/Banker/Suicide King, and Aces & Kings were all superior in my opinion. I even kind of liked Katy Lederer's Poker Face and Amarillo Slim's bio better. I have preference for histories and more serious journalism though. [/ QUOTE ] Check out David Spanier and Jack King, then, for some more books you'll probably like.
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