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#51
05-05-2006, 11:01 PM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
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I find it interesting that I'm the first person in this thread to express any reservation about giving off a tell themselves. [/ QUOTE ] I brought it up already. See my post. 
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#52
05-05-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
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Poker needs to use chess clocks. (Well--10-person versions of a chess clock.) I don't mind someone spending 60 seconds on a $500 decision now and then. It is not ok for them to spend 30 seconds on EVERY decision. [/ QUOTE ] What a great idea! I think the person I hate the most in a poker game is the guy who has to think for 30 seconds EVERY time he FOLDS. It's ok to think for a few if you are CALLING a big raise, or wondering what the two people to your right are limping with. But if you have to think EVERY TIME YOU ARE JUST GOING TO FOLD, please find another game to play.
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#53
07-13-2006, 02:22 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
I'll revive this thread just to bitch...
Yesterday's Wynn tournament was filled with WSOP $1K NLHE bustouts. And I was lucky enough to land at a table where 7 of the 10 players waited until it was their turn to look, and many were rarely prepared to look. A couple folks were particularly bad about it, and one special case would always just cover his cards with a chip when he got them and he'd lean back until it was his turn, then look around the table when the action was on him, sometimes ask "who's still in" or "who raised" or "has it been raised" while still not moving (like what's he been doing while not looking at his cards if not following the action). Then he'd lean forward and S L O W L Y (oh so very SLOWLY) squeeze out his two cards. Then pausepausepause, and in S L O W motion he'd muck--he'd slowly pick up his cards, and slowly move 'em forward a bit, and then pause before FINALLY giving 'em a little flip. I timed it... we got 5 hands out in 15 minutes during the 2nd or 3rd round. Thank goodness that table broke and I only had to suffer with it this bad for about 45 minutes. Whomever popularized this common advice for the masses to not look until it's your turn needs to be keelhauled.
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#55
07-13-2006, 08:33 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
I also used to do this, because that's what all the books said to do.
Now, I look at them as soon as I get them. I'd much rather have a few extra seconds to figure out how I want to play the hand rather than worry about giving off some kind of tell.
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#56
07-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
I've noticed its usually the table captain that always waits and performs some act of drama deciding what to do with his hand. I played in a tournament a week or so ago and I was in seat 6 and the captain was in seat 9 I think. I had a great view for the "performance" that was every hand. Every time he would wait until everyone acted sigh, look at his cards and proceed to have a discussion with himself about what to do. Sometimes he would announce "nope not this time". Sometimes it was a 45 second thing. Talking through the whole thing each time. Loudly too.
Not only was it annoying but we were in a speed tournament so we were getting like 1/2 as many hands in as all the other tables. What a moron. Gah.
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#57
07-13-2006, 09:49 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
If you do it, do it fast and understand you're slowing down the game.
Don't do it at all in a timed rake game, like the 30/60 game at the Bellagio.
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#58
07-13-2006, 10:28 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
try playing stud b&m for a living like i do when the games are good (which they werent for a little bit) its like watching paint dry
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#59
07-13-2006, 10:32 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
I usually wait till it gets to me, but I usually know what I'm going to do the second I see my cards (I play mostly limit live) Therefore, it's no big deal really.
i.e. Someone raises utg, if I don't have AA-JJ, AK I'm more than likely mucking so it's pretty quick.
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#60
07-13-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Waiting until it\'s your turn to look at your hole cards?
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I usually wait till it gets to me, but I usually know what I'm going to do the second I see my cards (I play mostly limit live) Therefore, it's no big deal really. i.e. Someone raises utg, if I don't have AA-JJ, AK I'm more than likely mucking so it's pretty quick. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. This is less of an issue in limit, when decisions are much quicker to make.
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