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09-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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Re: results (spoilers)
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Swope, you are the man. This is the 3rd or 4th time you have won me money. I can't believe I doubted you for a second. THANKS A LOT! [/ QUOTE ] im on a good run, it happens. very glad youre able to enjoy it as well. i did a LOT of hedging based on betting trends and late info which kind of tore up my profit margin, but all said and done, out of 32.25 units wagered, i took home 38.5 units. i can live with that. 
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#54
09-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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Re: results (spoilers)
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[ QUOTE ] Swope, you are the man. This is the 3rd or 4th time you have won me money. I can't believe I doubted you for a second. THANKS A LOT! [/ QUOTE ] im on a good run, it happens. very glad youre able to enjoy it as well. i did a LOT of hedging based on betting trends and late info which kind of tore up my profit margin, but all said and done, out of 32.25 units wagered, i took home 38.5 units. i can live with that. [/ QUOTE ] I'm too stupid to figure out the difference and apply your analysis to lines. Just hold my hand through this and post units and people they're on to help out the dumb people like me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#56
09-11-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: results (spoilers)
PLEASE put spoilers in white if your going to post them the night of the fight. i didn't get it on paperview untill tonight and I accidently read part of your post before I realized what it was.
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#57
09-11-2006, 02:29 AM
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Great Event...
To be honest...one of the more brutal events I've seen in awhile...CroCop is mostly responsible for that.
I was rooting heavy for Barnett. Fairly big fan of his, and think he's one of the few guys that has the tools to beat Fedor. But, I guess CroCop has them too. If he would fight that aggressive in every match, I'm not sure how you beat him. No one can take him down, which is extremely impressive for a non-wrestler to pick that up so well...and we all know how sick his striking is. I can finally see someone knocking Fedor off his throne. Was a great event. Now someone answer me this. Why doesn't one of the second tier heavyweights (Fedor's brother, Kharitonov, etc.) just head over to the UFC. Those guys would completely obliterate the competition over there. I think I'd rather be a champion than forever lower than the big 4...
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#58
09-11-2006, 02:53 AM
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Re: Great Event...
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Now someone answer me this. Why doesn't one of the second tier heavyweights (Fedor's brother, Kharitonov, etc.) just head over to the UFC. Those guys would completely obliterate the competition over there. I think I'd rather be a champion than forever lower than the big 4... [/ QUOTE ] Pretty sure that Pride pays much more than UFC. I know that's true for the top fighters (Cro Cop I think got $200K+ for tonight), so I would assume it's also true for the lower tier fighters.
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#60
09-11-2006, 10:31 AM
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Re: Great Event...
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[ QUOTE ] Now someone answer me this. Why doesn't one of the second tier heavyweights (Fedor's brother, Kharitonov, etc.) just head over to the UFC. Those guys would completely obliterate the competition over there. I think I'd rather be a champion than forever lower than the big 4... [/ QUOTE ] Pretty sure that Pride pays much more than UFC. I know that's true for the top fighters (Cro Cop I think got $200K+ for tonight), so I would assume it's also true for the lower tier fighters. [/ QUOTE ] The top guys in the UFC, i.e. Chuck, Tito, Randy, Hughes make a comparable amount to the top guys in Pride. The pay is structured differently, while Pride guys are generally paid a fixed amount plus a bonus for winning, the big names in the UFC usually get a piece of the PPV/Gate. Dana White has said a few times that fighters in the biggest UFC fights have been paid over 1M after all that was figured in. 2nd tier and lower fighters get much much less in the UFC, and Americans don't care if your Fedor's brother or what have you, the 2nd tier Pride HWs would all be completely unknown, and would probably start out at like 10k/10K or something for thier first few fights, thats probably 1/3-1/4 of what they make in Pride. They'd also lose thier Japanese sponsors, and it would take some time to build a name for themselves and get US sponsors. So while they would definetly have a chance to build themselved up to the Chuck level, it would take a few years and its not guaranteed to ever happen. Right now there's no incentive for the UFC to build up thier HW division, they're making money hand over fist doing what they are doing, so they're not going out of their way to increase the number of quality fighters in the stable. The Pride show in Vegas in October could start to change that if it begins to eat into UFC market/mind share, but until then they're going to stick with the TUF/Spike strategy thats worked for them so well the past 2 years.
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