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Old 05-31-2007, 11:28 AM
daryn daryn is offline
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Default Re: TT against one of our best..Wynn 30

so, who's gonna spill the results? or will they just stay in the cool kids club?
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:41 AM
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:52 AM
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I don't at all get the turn check. Seems like he is giving up two free bets.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:21 PM
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I warned you about this. You're out of the club. No reporting my hands until I'm damn good and ready. Daryn, we'll teach you the secret handshake when you're out here for the series.

As far as the hand goes, I guess I could write something up on it, but I think the logic behind my play is pretty elementary (hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective). Love it or hate it, it's not a super-deep-thinking sort of hand.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:26 PM
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(hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective).


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Translation: Hint, Joe's a tightass with an uber narrow range here and I had no clue he was even nittier than I thought and wouldn't 4-bet TT or JJ here.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:39 PM
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(hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective).


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Translation: Hint, Joe's a tightass with an uber narrow range here and I had no clue he was even nittier than I thought and wouldn't 4-bet TT or JJ here.

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I 4-bet JJ.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:40 PM
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(hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective).


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Translation: Hint, Joe's a tightass with an uber narrow range here and I had no clue he was even nittier than I thought and wouldn't 4-bet TT or JJ here.

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I 4-bet JJ.

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Yeah, right.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:54 PM
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I warned you about this. You're out of the club. No reporting my hands until I'm damn good and ready. Daryn, we'll teach you the secret handshake when you're out here for the series.

As far as the hand goes, I guess I could write something up on it, but I think the logic behind my play is pretty elementary (hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective). Love it or hate it, it's not a super-deep-thinking sort of hand.

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If I have the overset/quads here, I lead the turn. I'm a donk bet-3-better and couldn't resist trying to catch tattoo in the middle. You seen me lead out the the nuts on the turn as early as last night.
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Old 05-31-2007, 02:01 PM
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6% edge OOP is not a "Massive Overlay", Clark.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.104% 28.38% 01.09% 8163111 314453.83 { 66+, A7s+, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 32.725% 31.73% 01.41% 9126807 405501.33 { 66+, A9s+, KQs, J9s, T9s, 98s, 87s, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 38.170% 37.44% 01.21% 10771310 347025.83 { TT }

Now we are talking with over 13%....

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.048% 25.43% 01.01% 7791961 310914.17 { 66+, A7s+, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 30.307% 29.28% 01.48% 8973221 454830.67 { 66+, A9s+, KQs, J9s, T9s, 98s, 87s, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 43.645% 42.99% 01.32% 13173350 403786.17 { JJ }

Big difference with JJ here.
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Old 05-31-2007, 02:10 PM
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I warned you about this. You're out of the club. No reporting my hands until I'm damn good and ready. Daryn, we'll teach you the secret handshake when you're out here for the series.

As far as the hand goes, I guess I could write something up on it, but I think the logic behind my play is pretty elementary (hint, try to forget that Joe has TT here and play the hand from my perspective). Love it or hate it, it's not a super-deep-thinking sort of hand.

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Yeah when Joe told me you were worried he had bigger set / quads I immediately said "wtf you lead the turn with those". You have the NUTS here Doug and missed bets.

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