Typical spot and a quiz

[BobboFitos]

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why? what would you have done? 88 is the best hand here fairly often and it looks like a lot of people would be folding some better hands to a push... I'd rather fold pf than to fold on a relatively safe board like this one... and calling isn't all that great either when you have cards to dodge and aren't 100% sure which ones they are, nor do you know anything about your opponent's bluffing frequency on the turn.

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um calling is infinitely better. your argument is calling leads to tougher decisions so his play is reasonable - thats stupid.

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some people are folding 9x and Tx, so pushing has a ton of merit.

[soah]

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why? what would you have done? 88 is the best hand here fairly often and it looks like a lot of people would be folding some better hands to a push... I'd rather fold pf than to fold on a relatively safe board like this one... and calling isn't all that great either when you have cards to dodge and aren't 100% sure which ones they are, nor do you know anything about your opponent's bluffing frequency on the turn.

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um calling is infinitely better. your argument is calling leads to tougher decisions so his play is reasonable - thats stupid.

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thanks for putting words in my mouth, but that actually is not at all what I said

[jfish]

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and calling isn't all that great either when you have cards to dodge and aren't 100% sure which ones they are, nor do you know anything about your opponent's bluffing frequency on the turn.

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ok thats what i understood from that sentence. sorry if i put words in your mouth i guess.

[ddubois]

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why?

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Well, your equity when called sucks. It would be much better to shove 89s, QJs, or AKs than 88.

That said, I suppose it's possible that it could be +EV strictly based on fold equity given the board texture?

[Josh.]

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why? what would you have done? 88 is the best hand here fairly often and it looks like a lot of people would be folding some better hands to a push... I'd rather fold pf than to fold on a relatively safe board like this one... and calling isn't all that great either when you have cards to dodge and aren't 100% sure which ones they are, nor do you know anything about your opponent's bluffing frequency on the turn.

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um calling is infinitely better. your argument is calling leads to tougher decisions so his play is reasonable - thats stupid.

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thanks for putting words in my mouth, but that actually is not at all what I said

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maybe not, but what he's getting at is that the hand is not so difficult to play on the turn and river that you can't play it profitably

[Josh.]

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why?

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Well, your equity when called sucks. It would be much better to shove 89s, QJs, or AKs than 88.

That said, I suppose it's possible that it could be +EV strictly based on fold equity given the board texture?

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absolutely and absolutely

[cts]

bc when you're called with 88 you are stone dead every time? lol

[jfish]

agree w/ josh.

[ipokeder]

iono, if i'm villian here and i'm getting 3-bet a lot, i'll shove a ten fairly often here to sometimes get looked up by worse and also have my share of outs vs an overpair. i thought it was a fairly standard play in an aggressive game.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

stop taling eereyone