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11-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: What Of People Who Start Smoking Now
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It makes a lot more sense to smoke than it does to believe in god, and smoking is much less detrimental to your overall quality of life. At least today's smokers exhibit a type of intellectual honesty: they know it's bad for them and choose it anyway, the way other people's fat asses choose to scarf down McDonalds or slam beers or do drugs. The people wasting their lives going to church and praying refuse to recognize that it's an enormous waste of time. It's frequently the same sanctimonious [censored] that get on the high horse about the second-hand smoke their baby happens to inhale while I'm hotboxing the local IHOP. Seatbelt laws and fast food and ski helmets and big business polution regulations and smoking and war in Iraq and all the other stuff... prioritize... [/ QUOTE ] sanctimonious? terrible post. 
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#52
11-13-2007, 02:03 AM
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Re: What Of People Who Start Smoking Now
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well there's a clear legal parallel. things you buy new you have all sort of legal entitlements, like it actually doing what it's supposed to do, and the seller assumes all risk of defective product. things you buy used and marked "as is" or something the buyer assumes all risk of faulty or nonfunctioning product. so if you take the "health consequences of smoking", I would say that by this point in time it's "as is", and the consumer assumes all risk. an argument anyway. [/ QUOTE ] I've read a couple times of health treatment ( surgery?) being denied in britan because the patient was a smoker. Not sure how true or how widespread the notion is. luckyme [/ QUOTE ] This seems INCREDIBLY standard in a socialized health system. Whether it is or not. Similarly, McDonalds. [/ QUOTE ] Smokers in Western European countries with scocialised heathcare systems pay up to 80% in tax on a pack of [censored]. With a pack of 20 retailing at $10 - $11 in The UK, I think smokers have paid enuogh into their health system to be given equal treatment for healthcare. Edited to express surprise at the censorship of the British word for "cigarettes" "She has a lovely fanny" - [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#53
11-13-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: What Of People Who Start Smoking Now
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I am under the impression that the physical addiction should go away in about another 24 hours and the mental addiction should take about a week to vastly subside. Does that sound about right? I had a two pack a day habbit, and I'm cold turkey quitting, no patch, no gum, no chew, no tobacco. [/ QUOTE ] That was about right for me too. I quit a month ago and unless I have a few beers on board - I never really think about it. I also live with a (discrete) smoker and in a country where I see people chain smoking in taxis, restaurants, bars, trains, offices etc. I've tried many times before, but for some reason, this time it's been easy.
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#54
11-13-2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: What Of People Who Start Smoking Now
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not only because of this post, I'm quitting smoking. The last smoke I had was almost 48 hours ago. I've been planning on quitting for about a week now. That includes removing ashtrays form the house, throwing away lighters, getting mentally prepared, ect. I am under the impression that the physical addiction should go away in about another 24 hours and the mental addiction should take about a week to vastly subside. Does that sound about right? I had a two pack a day habbit, and I'm cold turkey quitting, no patch, no gum, no chew, no tobacco. [/ QUOTE ] Find someone here to make a bet with.
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