**Official uNL Microbrew thread: September** - Page 6

Gelford · #51 09-01-2007, 04:23 PM

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the fact that we can be completely priced out on the turn eliminate this as an out

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Exactly! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Student Caine · #52 09-01-2007, 04:38 PM

We were applying it to 10NL specifically as there were at least 2 of us (Wooster and myself) that were scratching our heads as to why we were not crushing the 10NL game (I was running at a screamin' 2 PT BB/100).

It appears that we were probably being a little naive in thinking that we were up against thinking players that could actually let go of marginal holding. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

lippy · #53 09-01-2007, 04:45 PM

Second hand of the month, goot start...

Getting Hand History Information...
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Hand #45622869-20141 at San Pedro (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 01/Sep/07 16:40:00

WILD DEUCE is at seat 0 with $49.60.
andwhatthen is at seat 1 with $47.
smythgar1 is at seat 2 with $68.40.
drewfoo is at seat 3 with $46.15.
bmoney2727 is at seat 4 with $35.65.
matawan is at seat 5 with $29.85.
The button is at seat 1.

smythgar1 posts the small blind of $.25.
drewfoo posts the big blind of $.50.

WILD DEUCE: -- --
andwhatthen: As Kc
smythgar1: -- --
drewfoo: -- --
bmoney2727: -- --
matawan: -- --

Pre-flop:

bmoney2727 folds. matawan folds. WILD DEUCE raises
to $1.75. andwhatthen re-raises to $6. smythgar1
folds. drewfoo folds. WILD DEUCE calls.

Flop (board: Td 8s 4c):

WILD DEUCE checks. andwhatthen bets $10. WILD DEUCE
calls.

Turn (board: Td 8s 4c Ks):

WILD DEUCE checks. andwhatthen checks.

River (board: Td 8s 4c Ks 9c):

WILD DEUCE bets $32.75. andwhatthen goes all-in for
$31. WILD DEUCE is returned $1.75 (uncalled).

MrWooster · #54 09-01-2007, 04:45 PM

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Update on the Gelford Ubernit Style:

[/ QUOTE ]Did I miss this thread, or?

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After Gelford mentioned that he played 10K hands at 20nl playing only 22+, AQo+ (put I rekon he cheated a bit and added a few hands) and made a nice little profit, Student Caine and I (and others?) decided that maybe playing the 'UBERNIT' style was the key to success at 10NL (/25NL) due to several facts. 1) Our opponents were (in general) very un-observant and so would not notice that we only played 10% of our hands, and so would still call down with top pair. 2) Those opponents that are observent, who are also the sort of opponents who we do not want to get into pots with because they have brains, would realise that we only play premium hands and so stay out of our way.

As has been mentioned by several people, playing the UBERNIT style is NOT good poker, it is merly taking advantage of the level of play at 10NL and will only turn a marginal profit with good table selection.

The reason Student Caine and I have adopted this method is that it makes post flop play much much easier and so we can slowly adapt to different opponents and start to open up our ranges when we feel confident about it. Basically, if you are struggling at the micros, it is not a bad idea to play 10K hands using the UBERNIT style, taking in as much information as possible, and then very slowly and methodically adding more hands to your arsenal. This makes post flop play much easier to understand as you are confronted with one situation at a time, and when you have learned how to deal with it, you then (and only then) move on to dealing with the next type of situation. This avoids to overwhelming difficulty of suddenly playing 30% of your hands and having no idea where you stand postflop.....

Hope this helps, not sure if it makes sence but you get the idea...

Gelford · #55 09-01-2007, 04:47 PM

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It appears that we were probably being a little naive in thinking that we were up against thinking players that could actually let go of marginal holding. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Gelford · #56 09-01-2007, 05:00 PM

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After Gelford mentioned that he played 10K hands at 20nl playing only 22+, AQo+ (put I rekon he cheated a bit and added a few hands)

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Yeah I cheated, But the principle of it holds, to simply play 'stay out of trouble' poker (thus enabling me to 8 table) and just feed of the fish

MT ratio is 6.9

kabouter · #57 09-01-2007, 05:11 PM

Ok so my first long 6 tabling session today after a long time of 15min sessions. And it was terrible... I had some bad luck KK<AA, KK>QQ etc. But probably got lucky on other hands too, well at least I'm happy that I almost cleared my $600 bonus [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

p.s. what do we do with hands like JQs JTs KTS 87s, etc... when I raise to 4xbb on the button and get minraised by the bb to 8xbb?

hennnerz · #58 09-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50
CO: $52.05
Button: $44.95
SB: $75.05
Hero: $89.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $19, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($43, 2 players)
SB bets $10.5, Hero raises to $26.5, SB raises all-in $56.55, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($156.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $156.1)

Results:
Final pot: $156.1
SB showed Qh Qs
Hero showed 7c 7h

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $103.65
UTG+1: $46
CO: $41.90
Hero: $108.75
SB: $56.10
BB: $23

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.75, 2 folds, UTG raises all-in $103.65, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Results:
Final pot: $208.05
Hero showed Ad Ac
UTG showed Kd Kc

So freaking sick. Down 3.5 buyins over 1.25k hands. Screw september. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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Whoop, finished up four buyins. Im g000t, but boy am I swingy...

lippy · #59 09-01-2007, 05:25 PM

Spoke too soon...

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Hand #45643481-13801 at Aibongo (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 01/Sep/07 17:20:02

rkruck is at seat 0 with $49.
keeweewee is at seat 1 with $62.
spiketom is at seat 2 with $47.35.
crip17 is at seat 3 with $88.30.
DaFizz is at seat 4 with $32.75.
LOUISSS_ is at seat 5 with $53.85.
JAYBIRD152325 is at seat 6 with $91.15.
roccodigi is at seat 7 with $24.95.
andwhatthen is at seat 8 with $49.25.
LadyD OOB is at seat 9 with $49.25.
The button is at seat 4.

LOUISSS_ posts the small blind of $.25.
JAYBIRD152325 posts the big blind of $.50.

rkruck: -- --
keeweewee: -- --
spiketom: -- --
crip17: -- --
DaFizz: -- --
LOUISSS_: -- --
JAYBIRD152325: -- --
roccodigi: -- --
andwhatthen: Th Tc
LadyD OOB: -- --

Pre-flop:

roccodigi folds. andwhatthen raises to $2. LadyD
OOB folds. rkruck folds. keeweewee folds.
spiketom folds. crip17 folds. DaFizz folds.
LOUISSS_ folds. JAYBIRD152325 calls.

Flop (board: 7c 3d 4s):

JAYBIRD152325 bets $4.25. andwhatthen raises to $13.
JAYBIRD152325 goes all-in for $89.15. andwhatthen
goes all-in for $47.25. JAYBIRD152325 is returned
$41.90 (uncalled).

Turn (board: 7c 3d 4s Jh):

(no action in this round)

River (board: 7c 3d 4s Jh 9d):

(no action in this round)

Showdown:

JAYBIRD152325 shows 9h 9s.
JAYBIRD152325 has 9h 9s 7c Jh 9d: three nines.
andwhatthen shows Th Tc.
andwhatthen has Th Tc 7c Jh 9d: a pair of tens.

Hand #45643481-13801 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $98.75.
JAYBIRD152325 wins $95.75 with three nines.
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ajmargarine · #60 09-01-2007, 05:27 PM

I thought linzaylohan was yvesaint?