pay off?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i'd fold. what kind of retarded bluff this would be? bare minimum, you are chopping and that is pretty optimistic imo.

[Kayber2]

I fold. Super duper players don't try to bluff here into 2 people (very often anyway)

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I fold. Super duper players don't try to bluff here into 2 people (very often anyway)

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well, that and he shouldn't even really have a bluffing hand here. The only hand I can put him on that might bluff here is some connecty hand with spades, but he prob wouldn't call 2 more PF OOP against you guys with 67ss, would he?
I think some hand with a Q in it is much more likely, and probably AQ that made a silly flop peel.

[PokerBob]

live 30 game.
BB here is an exceptional player. we have a long history. utg is a spazz, but knows he is in treacherous waters vs. me and the BB.

utg raises, folds to me in the hijack and i 3bet A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] folds to BB who calls, utg calls.

flop 3 ways for 9.67SB
J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
bb checks, utg donks, i call, bb calls.

turn 3 ways for 6.3BB: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, utg bets, I call, BB calls.

River 3 ways for 9.3BB: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB donks, utg mutters and folds, I...........called because he is smart enough to know that EP cant call and that i have AK and that this spot sucks for me. i could not imagine that he'd have a Q here, even though he HAS to have a Q in his hand but how the hell does he ever have that here? so, i called to have him show me A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. he sucks.

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i could not imagine that he'd have a Q here, even though he HAS to have a Q in his hand but how the hell does he ever have that here? so, i called to have him show me A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. i suck.

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fyp.

stop. think carefully before you put in that last bet. there is only one hand he could hold, AQ with a spade is totally reasonable. Don't call just because you cant think of a hand and expect to chop... its out there!

[mike l.]

i cant imagine not raising that flop for information, for value, for option to check the turn if it's checked to me, to regain control of the hand, and for metahand reasons. flat calling that flop is a significant strategy error.

[PokerBob]

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flat calling that flop is a significant strategy error.

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not quite.

[Nate.]

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flat calling that flop is a significant strategy error.

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not quite.

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Care to elaborate?

--Nate