Dan Harrington on Cash Poker...We buy his books? Watch this video.

[Python49]

[x] Make fun of someone elses play, be wrong, and show how much you suck at poker yourself

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[Taso]

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thats sum crazy nipple rubbing at the end of the hand there...

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Yes, this was incredibly disturbing. I'm trying to understand why people are ragging on Williams so hard, he made a great call on the turn to a very suspect bet by DH. The immediacy of the turn push by DH reminded me of Moneymaker against Sammy. Considering the time DH usually takes to make a decision, DW definitely picked something up with the speed of the turn push.
I'm too much of a pussy to make that sort of call like DW, and I know that so that's why I play limit. Give DW credit, awesome call.

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In my opinion, the only way Harrington is really at fault here is he forgot he was playing against DW, who generally sucks at laying hands down. DW did do decent though in that show (Cash Poker, by the way) but I don't consider him to be a good player. Er, at least not "one of the best in the world"

[jman220]

That hand was completely uninteresting in every respect.

[Micturition Man]

I'm surprised nobody is faulting DW for his flop call. Results oriented?

It seems like if Harrington had had a set or top two people would say the flop is an easy fold when a check-raises the field, including an UTG limper, out of the blind.

On the turn IMO Harrington's insta-shove when the board pairs is a pretty flagrant case of strong-means-weak... but unfortunately knowing the outcome of the hand I could be biased.

[snagglepuss]

DW play in general on this show, at least all that I have seen, is pretty much terrible and completely fishy.

granted there is a good chance he was going out of his way to play pots in order to get more TV time, but in my opinion he was still playing very poorly overall.

this hand was pretty boring except the awful timing/sizing on harringtons part.

[TheJokerIsWild]

DW needs to go back to his porn career and give up cash games.

[DLizzle]

this hand does not need a thread. so standard

[JulioYalil]

blinds look to me @ $100-$200. 4 limpers + SB & BB = $1200 pot. DW limp wasn't as bad as people have commented so far. he's a good enough player to get rid of it if there's any resistance preflop or @ the flop. only online donkeys and/or $1-$2 live players like to go broke with KQ when they flop a pair. Also, everyone at the table seems to be well over 100BB so with his stack (pretty deep apparently from what i can see)he wants to see as many flops as possible to try stackin someone. watch the whole episode and notice that it has been passive (at least compared to what i'm used to)play up to that point which adds another reason to limp w/ KQ.
on the flop...DW leads out for half the pot ($600). pretty good bet imo. he has top pair K kicker in a nonraised pot so most of the time he's good so far. but he's gotta be careful of so many people in the hand and 3 of them left to act behind him. so the bet is sort of a probe bet, u know, see what's goin on around the table. 2 folds to the button who's now gettin 3:1 on his flush draw. those odds and his position definitely justify a call. not only he can win w/ his flush, but noone else has shown real strength thruout the hand so perhaps he can take it down on the turn. (this guy's only really bad move was the preflop call. he's maybe thinkin that brunson and harrington won't raise on their blinds unless they have a very big hand cause they will be outta pos. 4 da rest of the hand. so assumin they won't raise, 5 limpers give him 5:1 on his money. that's more than enough of a reason to see the flop from the button especially suited, but 52 is way too low to be trying this. it's super rag rag against a tough table, let it go).

anyways this is when harrington makes the 1st mistake. right now he's getting 4:1 on his money with 15 outs (9 for the flush and 6 for the straight) out of 47 cards left in the deck. 47:15 = 3.13:1 therefore the call itself will make u money in the long run. i know that no limit rewards aggression but no need to do it if the play with the lowest risk is +EV. also, he has to think that a reraise here won't scare a good player because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to check that flop w/ 5 other people still in the hand. we can eliminate AA and KK because there wasn't a raise preflop, also he would've definitely bet on the flop with those. we can also disregard QQ and JJ again b/c no raise preflop. one more hand we can eliminate that beats the KQ is AK, but on such a draw heavy board he would've lead out w/ AK on the flop. that leaves QJ, Q4, J4, and 44. with such a draw heavy board and so many people left to act behind, any player w/ the slighest hint of what he's doin will lead out. u can't allow any free cards and u've got to thin the field. at least get an idea where everyone stands in the hand. so the only hands that make sense are drawing hands. harrington saw weakness preflop and @ the flop so he's trying to take it down right there. but harrington is not the type of player who will put it in a big raise without leaving himself some outs (at least not in a cash game, he's capable of doin it in a tourney tho). it should be a semibluff. i would've also called with top pair and reevaluate on the turn. but i would've done it only in position against my opponent like DW was. if i was outta pos. i woulda let it go.

now here comes the 2nd mistake. he overbets the pot on the turn w/ an all in. 1st, he seems a little bit to anxious to me when he puts the money in (does it to quickly). that's definitely a tell. if he was really strong he would have to take at least little bit of time to figure out the max amount he can extract from williams. a value bet would make a whole lot more sense than an all in of almost double the pot. maybe a bet that gives a little bit less than borderline odds to chase a straight or a flush or if he already has a full house he might actually want to give the right odds for williams to chase it. from my experience this is one of two things: frustration of a counterfeited Q4 or the big draw that just missed and doesn't want a call but still has a few outs. williams had left himself in a spot where he would reevaluate on the turn and harrington just gave him a reason to call. so he called.
one more thing. DW is not the kind of player who likes to lay down hands heads up to the point where u can call him stubborn. DH will be better off trying this move against a newbie at the table or someone who is maybe intimidated by him. nh Mr. Williams. Mr. Harrington, u sucked at this hand, but i would definitely take advice from u any day and buy ur books. u r still a great legend to me and ur books have helped me win and finaltable multiple donkaments.

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Jack wasn't bad because DW could have one. Jack was bad because it counterfeited two check raising hands DH could have had as the bb in an unraised pot.

Now he has the nuts, AQ or nothing. DH says I was hoping you had an ace. Lead into half the table with air on qj double suited flop? Cmon, Dan.

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He meant he hoped he had AQ, not just an ace. You know, so his K outs were still good?

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If I had Dan's cards and that flop arrived, it was an all-in on the flop decision for me (Kh10h), with the flush draw and open ended straight draw combo. On the flop, Williams was faced with Qc4hJh with hole cards: KcQd. An all-in on the flop from Dan would have very possibly shut down Williams, thereby preventing the Williams top two pair on the river.

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wtf? hope u dont post in strat