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Old 11-16-2007, 01:30 AM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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meh does he ever play a 4 like that on the turn?
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:00 AM
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:17 AM
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:56 AM
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LOL, wish iRock played 50/100+ like he used to.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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LOL, wish iRock played 50/100+ like he used to.

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is this a compliment or not? im not sure what that means haha.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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LOL, wish iRock played 50/100+ like he used to.

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is this a compliment or not? im not sure what that means haha.

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Well I def wouldn't want u in my 400NL games.
Totally agree on the call for metagame.
Hopefully it gets legal again and more peeps have a reason to play/move up.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:26 PM
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hi,

little late in here. What you say about PA C/R the flop all the time is consistent with my view of how he plays. also he continues with almost his entire range on turn. I have never played anyone who has such high frequency in this. its pretty amazing that he will contiune to do this pot after pot after pot....

One thing tho: He tends overplays hands when stacks get deep. From what ive played and seen of him he doesnt adjust when the stacks get deep. That said he will bet any flush, 6, 4, and bluff.

I dont know what to do here... probably fold but i would be very curious...
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:46 AM
Oki-Oki Oki-Oki is offline
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Default Re: a hand vs PA, 200/400 HU

Also if we are folding an 8 high flush here, isnt this an insanely profitable spot for PA to bluff his entire range. Based on the action isnt it kinda hard for Krantz to have a boat any decent percentage of the time.

Whats the minimum we call him with?

It just feels that if PA controls these pots we are a dog in the match. This is most definitely not a comment about krantz's play but just a comment how these spots play into the overall match. Or is this spot so unique that it doesnt really affect our profitability in this match? Or am I way off here?

Anyway great post krantz, also nice to see some decent discussion for a change.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:03 AM
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hi,

little late in here. What you say about PA C/R the flop all the time is consistent with my view of how he plays. also he continues with almost his entire range on turn. I have never played anyone who has such high frequency in this. its pretty amazing that he will contiune to do this pot after pot after pot....

One thing tho: He tends overplays hands when stacks get deep. From what ive played and seen of him he doesnt adjust when the stacks get deep. That said he will bet any flush, 6, 4, and bluff.

I dont know what to do here... probably fold but i would be very curious...

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Nezzar, if PA is routinely overplaying some hands when stacks get deeper, couldnt this tactic make him much tougher to play (even though it should be a leak). Especially at HU nosebleed stakes online, because most players are never going to be comfortable with the stakes in the first place.

And by being know as somewhat of an over-player isnt it going to force ppl to play much bigger pots in many more marginal spots often OOP. At stakes where they are not entirely comfortable in the first place.

If they adjust by looking up multiple streets too light PA is obviously going to profit but on the other hand if they allow him to run the game over and take down a majority of small pots then PA crushes anyway. Maybe Im stating the obvious but it seems something you mention as a hole in his game just makes him infinitely more difficult to play HU or extreme shorthanded.

It just seems whatever you do PA is forcing you to play his match, by making you adjust to him and by controlling most hands.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:14 AM
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hi,

little late in here. What you say about PA C/R the flop all the time is consistent with my view of how he plays. also he continues with almost his entire range on turn. I have never played anyone who has such high frequency in this. its pretty amazing that he will contiune to do this pot after pot after pot....

One thing tho: He tends overplays hands when stacks get deep. From what ive played and seen of him he doesnt adjust when the stacks get deep. That said he will bet any flush, 6, 4, and bluff.

I dont know what to do here... probably fold but i would be very curious...

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Nezzar, if PA is routinely overplaying some hands when stacks get deeper, couldnt this tactic make him much tougher to play (even though it should be a leak). Especially at HU nosebleed stakes online, because most players are never going to be comfortable with the stakes in the first place.

And by being know as somewhat of an over-player isnt it going to force ppl to play much bigger pots in many more marginal spots often OOP. At stakes where they are not entirely comfortable in the first place.

If they adjust by looking up multiple streets too light PA is obviously going to profit but on the other hand if they allow him to run the game over and take down a majority of small pots then PA crushes anyway. Maybe Im stating the obvious but it seems something you mention as a hole in his game just makes him infinitely more difficult to play HU or extreme shorthanded.

It just seems whatever you do PA is forcing you to play his match, by making you adjust to him and by controlling most hands.

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it makes him very tough to play. But its def a leak as i see it:

disgusting play by PA
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