bellagio 10-20 700bb deep: 2nd-nut boat facing 4-bet

[EC10]

just take it to shove town he'll call every time w 77 88

[EC10]

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I would stay consistent with my bet sizing up to that point and stick in another min re-raise

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[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

since ur not obv folding there are only 2 factors in play here:

1) how often is he bluffing
2) does he ever fold 77 or AJ or something he was doing this for value

My guess is 2 is never true so the only reason i wouldn't jam the turn is if I thought he might be bluffing more than 10% of the time. That 10% is just a random estimate but I think most players in this game with that description are basically never bluffing here--so push. You'd hate to see a jack or an eight or an ace or something roll off.

[cowpig]

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i vote he shoved guy folded.

p.s. i vote call and call river, i think shoving sometimes gets him to fold 888, no joke. it might push him off a chop though!

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i agree with the duck

[greg nice]

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Ditto.

Mike, I like shoving because there are some action killers for our hand, although not many. This guy has showed that he loves his hand a lot, and I doubt he would even consider folding any full house here, especially with your aggressive / tilty image. There's also the slim chance that he is overplaying a straight, in which case there are a lot of scare cards.

In any event, I like shoving now.

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roger

[iDONKEDyoo]

get it arrin, shove, everything strass said.

did u get pozzed? reults?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

i would just shove

[shorn7]

shove. if he has put 5k in this pot already, he isnt folding. He has AJ, KJ, 77 or 88 90+% of the time and J8 the other 10%. Good luck...

[todd1007]

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i would just shove

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does this tard have to show up in every interesting post?

anyway, back to the hand, there are only five possible hands that he has

AJ
J8
J7
88
77

I really think that he leads weak or does some kind of weak CR on the flop with AJ, J8. especially J8. as deep as you are, i think that he would want to get more information about what you have. i think he would however, slow play AJ, J7, and 77.

That being said, i do not see him four betting AJ on the turn, which basically redefines his hand as J7, 77, 88. (remember J8 is eleminated because he would have bet for more info on the flop).

there is no way we are folding, if for some strange crazy reason he has J8, he stacks us, so be it. the two hands that we beat, that he could have, 77 and 88, i dont see him getting away from, especially 88.

A min reraise back to him looks really really strong here, i think he is more likely to call a push.

please post results.