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[ QUOTE ] btw, c/r the flop this deep please [/ QUOTE ] yeah, I kinda thought he would expect me to C/R a F/D so I wanted to conceal my draw... it might have turned into FPS though [/ QUOTE ] depends how aggro you are with each other, but after I posted I thought that he may 3-bet bluff you which would make a shove sick given depth but this is hard to determine without being in the game. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't want to have to fold my hand on the turn given my pot equity. That's really the bottom line. [/ QUOTE ] But our pot equity sucks... [/ QUOTE ] disagree [/ QUOTE ] I'm very curious to see what range you put him on here that makes our pot equity not suck. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't really want to discuss/explain further than that. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you don't. [/ QUOTE ] jesus christ take it easy [/ QUOTE ] It's quite clear that I completely disagree with his (and your) assessment of the turn call, and he writes me off with a "I don't want to give too much away." I suppose I should just write, "Cool, man! High five!" instead of trying to get him to explain it to me. |
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[ QUOTE ] possibly donk river 7 for value LMAO cuz he might call as light as KT on river lmao [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] hilarious! |
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I think this player is probably capable of both inducing a bluff to re-bluff shove or to induce a weak value raise that things it should call. If this is the case do you think c/ring the river is good? Given that we got there and it may have induced a bluff shove then maybe it is good but I don't know the ratio that he does with bluffs : houses (I guess he can also do with nf given that you don't ever have a FH here?).
turn play I hate a lot, lead / c/r are both better than c/c |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] possibly donk river 7 for value LMAO cuz he might call as light as KT on river lmao [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] hilarious! [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that you're still a huge dog to have the best hand when you get called, right? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't really want to discuss/explain further than that. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you don't. [/ QUOTE ] jesus christ take it easy [/ QUOTE ] It's quite clear that I completely disagree with his (and your) assessment of the turn call, and he writes me off with a "I don't want to give too much away." I suppose I should just write, "Cool, man! High five!" instead of trying to get him to explain it to me. [/ QUOTE ] sorry you took this out of context and I thought it was in reference to my preflop play, where I don't want to talk about my complete/3bet and complete/fold and raise/fold ranges, (which seems reasonable) and isn't the point of this to begin with. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] possibly donk river 7 for value LMAO cuz he might call as light as KT on river lmao [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] hilarious! [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that you're still a huge dog to have the best hand when you get called, right? [/ QUOTE ] no, but we are nit picking about my first instinct over something that I said awhile ago, without putting much thought into it... even so, I can't image its possibly "that" bad. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] possibly donk river 7 for value LMAO cuz he might call as light as KT on river lmao [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] hilarious! [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that you're still a huge dog to have the best hand when you get called, right? [/ QUOTE ] no [/ QUOTE ] Well, you are. I posted a pokerstoving of when you hit a J earlier in the thread. It's pretty similar if we hit a 7, probably a bit worse. |
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pf fine/standard/sometimes limp/sometimes raise
i think check-call turn is pretty horror for the reasons outlined so far. playing draws oop vs good laggy opponent deep on a paired board check-calling 3/4 pot bets is never a recipe for profit imo. |
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Turn is a clear c/f. Turn is a must-call I guess, prefer a somewhat smaller c/r to 1100-1200 so you can fold to a push.
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