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[citanul]

I don't understand at all the concept of "well we shortened it to 5 days so now we can't re-lengthen it."

We're not expected or even supposed to be perfect. If we make a mistake we can admit to it and fix it. If that amounts to saying "oops, dude should be permabanned, or given a month, or whatever" then so be it. If we decide we have given people too many chances in the past, it's not exactly nice to go back and like, permaban them, but we can certainly change the standards at any time we feel like it.

Personally because this is something that is pretty horrible and really aggressively stupid and because people can get fired for just having that on screen, I'd have no problem making the standard "canned."

[Dids]

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Dibs,

OK, lemme go out on a limb really far here and make this bold statement too: If someone posts inline scat porn pics their account should be nuked.

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My greater point was that I think that in terms of level of offense, gods honest dick in pussy hardcore porn is just as bad and probably should either be or not be a perma ban on the same standards as horse/scat porn. Both will get me fired, which to me is kinda the point.

[El Diablo]

Dibs,

You are smoking crack if you think regular dick in pussy porn is the same level of offensiveness as horse and scat porn.

I mean, I am just looking at what you wrote and wondering if this is some sort of joke because it's hard to believe that you could really be just that clueless and retarded.

Having said that, it may well be that all three of those should be considered as "above the bar" in terms of what leads to permabans. But to equate the first to the other two in terms of offensiveness and consequences is just plain idiotic.

[El Diablo]

Leader,

They should face the consequences as set out in the rules.

If the rules say that horse porn gets your account nuked, that should be what happens to both good posters and crappy posters when they post horse porn.

[Dids]

"Having said that, it may well be that all three of those should be considered as "above the bar" in terms of what leads to permabans."

This is the point I'm trying to make. For a message board like 2p2, I think all hardcore porn should be off limits and would warrent a suspension. I think a permaban for any one post (again, save obvious spammers with no posts) is not the best policy.

[Jim Kuhn]

I think we should consider each situation differently. Questions we should think about include 1) what was the posters intent? 2) did they clearly know the rules and the possible punishment? 3) what violations have the poster had in the past? 4) what punishment would 'send a message to that poster'? 5) what punishment ranges 'would fit the crime'?

It sound as if this poster has had valuable contributions to the forums, has not had alot of problems noted, is sorry for his actions and would likely be a better poster with a second chance. If those statements are true I would support a five day suspension. If the poster has a problematic history and 'just doesn't get it', I would fully support a ban, an ip ban and ban on site status. I respect others opinions and this is JMHO.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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[El Diablo]

All,

Here is my suggestion for a policy:

If someone posts inline scat porn pics or inline bestiality pics their account should be nuked.

Agree/disagree?

[Leader]

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Leader,

They should face the consequences as set out in the rules.

If the rules say that horse porn gets your account nuked, that should be what happens to both good posters and crappy posters when they post horse porn.

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ummm...So the argument is about whether rules should be enforced? That's fine so long as the rules are correct to begin with. If the rule is incorrect, then you are incorrect to enforce it. Or do you disagree with this, lol?

In any case I think the rule should be that if you do this you should be punished harshly as the mods/admins see fit. I don't see why it's got to be the same for everyone. That isn't good policy. I'm not sure how you can take the argument that if a sucky poster does something that really sucks he should be treated the same as a good contributer that f'ed up. But w/e

[Leader]

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All,

Here is my suggestion for a policy:

If someone posts inline scat porn pics or inline bestiality pics their account should be nuked.

Agree/disagree?

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I disagree

Edit: I disagree that it should be automatic.

[El Diablo]

Leader,

I'm simply saying that I believe there are certain actions that merit nuking of an account, period. To me, those actions include inline posting of scat porn or bestiality pics.

Clearly, you disagree. That's fine.