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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
Why is this not stickied?
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
Sticky...? hello?
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
Maybe someone can use that alert modifier thingy...I can never find that link.
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
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Tight range: Flush (9s8s will do for pokerstove, a flush is a flush and we have no redraw anyway so its fine) [/ QUOTE ] Newbie, I like your idea here, but I think that letting 9s8s stand in for all possible flushes in the pokerstove analysis is a big mistake. He would obviously play all flushes pretty much the same way, and there are a large number of other flushes he could have. Therefore a bigger part of both the tight range and the optimistic range will be flushes, and your equity calculations will shift accordingly. |
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
Bump for sticky.
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
bump for continued strategy talk, not sticky...
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Re: Whats his range?
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Since I spoke up I'll try one . . . A dry one- Vill is 44/13/1.35 over 136 hands. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP ($24.50) Hero ($37.75) SB ($34.60) BB ($49.85) UTG ($16) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($2.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.50. Assign a range. I know this is a sad starter, but I searched my database(which made me sad- I suck, good thing others suck more) for others and had a hard time finding good ones. Probably because im tired. Ret [/ QUOTE ] his range here is pretty wide and you will narrow his range when u bet again on the turn. AGAIN aba o rgalfond i forgot which one once said that villains range changes when the turn card is dealt. |
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Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
Let's add some substance (albeit derived from a small sample).
A) Range analysis (using Holdem Manager and Excel) based on: 1 Sample of hands played by "winning" players during August. 2 Specifically, those players whose pre-flop raising frequency is >12.7% and <= 15.1% (percentage range represents mid 30% percentile). 3 Hands all involved 6 players playing $1-$2 no-limit at 6-max tables located at one particular site. B) Estimated Range Distribution for Big Blind Position 1 Pre Flop Raise (7%, VPIP 14%) 45%.........88+ 40%.........AJ+ 11%.........KJ+ 4%..........other 2 Re-raise (5.3%) 50%.........99+ 42%.........AQ+ 5%..........KQ 3%..........other 3 Cold Call (11.3%) 25%.........88-22 24%.........AJs-A2s 21%.........J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, JT-76o =70% 12%.........KJs+, KQo 8%..........AQ-ATo 4%..........JJ-99 7%..........other C) Usage 1 Analysis repeated as more hands come in (and this helps to embed into memory). 2 Starting point where players fitting profile unknown. 3 Ranges individualised as players fitting profile become known. D) Note 1 Sample size for this profile is 30 "winning" players (minimum number of hands for each player is 1,000). 2 Analysis carried out for other positions, and for upper/lower 35% percentiles. 3 Not claiming calculations are error free, nor analysis devoid of improvement. D) Finally Point being made is you do not have to rely on your own experience. |
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