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#51
07-25-2007, 09:36 AM
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Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass
Something along the lines of "We apparently are very popular on 2p2 at the moment - perhaps they would like to e-mail the show instead." and an ironic "They love us." was in there somewhere.
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#53
07-26-2007, 10:31 AM
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Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass
Unsubstantiated rumor:
Gordon posts on here under 'antisocialgrace' A few posts from his latest rant in: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11211771 "This juvenile little misogynistic degenerate shithole is the wrong place to post about "class". The truth is poker players, especially higher stakes poker players, are typically losers in life who couldn't make it in the real world so they turned to being scumbag hustlers. Accordingly this kind of behavior from the sort of krunks who look up to scumbag hustlers shouldn't surprise anyone and is the rule rather than the exception. If it's me sitting in seat four some punk is getting hurt." "I play high micro stakes now, soon to be murdering low stakes. That must frustrate a lot of you 2+2 punks that some jerk who took up the game later in life and doesn't angle-shoot, multi-account, chip dump or collude is actually doing alright. Although it's highly unlikely you would ever find me in a casino because of my social limitations and general aversion to degenerate scumbags in public settings, were I to reduce myself to such ignominy I assure you I'm quite capable causing someone grievous personal injury under appropriate circumstances. I can't imagine in my wildest imagination not being moved to confrontation if some inebreiated punkshit restricted my right of way after the scumbag degenerate donkey he's heaping misplaced adulation on sucked out on me. As far as exposing poker players for the scum they are being the primary motivation for and purpose of my existence ... not even I'm that pathetic." " My first post was entirely related to the subject at hand, maybe you ought to go back through the thread. As is often the case in here some moron decided to attack me for voicing my opinion on a particular aspect of tournament poker I really don't like. Naturally since I am so completely superior to the new generation of attention starved adolescent wankers and wannabees who typically can't find it within themselves to be gracious toward someone busted out on a bad beat, I felt compelled to say a few things that have been on my mind. " " You've already admitted to being a scumbag cheat yourself Johnny, and what's worse a scumbag cheat for the house. Ergo how about you let those of us who aren't scumbag cheats ask and answer questions about Poker's virtue compared to other professions. There was never a time when cheating was acceptable despite whatever internal spin doctoring you scumbags engaged in to sleep at night. There will never come a time when it's acceptable regardless of how many ZeeJustin's and Johnny Hughes tempt us to overhaul our own strict moral codes. "
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#54
08-02-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass
[ QUOTE ]
Unsubstantiated rumor: Gordon posts on here under 'antisocialgrace' A few posts from his latest rant in: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11211771 "This juvenile little misogynistic degenerate shithole is the wrong place to post about "class". The truth is poker players, especially higher stakes poker players, are typically losers in life who couldn't make it in the real world so they turned to being scumbag hustlers. Accordingly this kind of behavior from the sort of krunks who look up to scumbag hustlers shouldn't surprise anyone and is the rule rather than the exception. If it's me sitting in seat four some punk is getting hurt." "I play high micro stakes now, soon to be murdering low stakes. That must frustrate a lot of you 2+2 punks that some jerk who took up the game later in life and doesn't angle-shoot, multi-account, chip dump or collude is actually doing alright. Although it's highly unlikely you would ever find me in a casino because of my social limitations and general aversion to degenerate scumbags in public settings, were I to reduce myself to such ignominy I assure you I'm quite capable causing someone grievous personal injury under appropriate circumstances. I can't imagine in my wildest imagination not being moved to confrontation if some inebreiated punkshit restricted my right of way after the scumbag degenerate donkey he's heaping misplaced adulation on sucked out on me. As far as exposing poker players for the scum they are being the primary motivation for and purpose of my existence ... not even I'm that pathetic." " My first post was entirely related to the subject at hand, maybe you ought to go back through the thread. As is often the case in here some moron decided to attack me for voicing my opinion on a particular aspect of tournament poker I really don't like. Naturally since I am so completely superior to the new generation of attention starved adolescent wankers and wannabees who typically can't find it within themselves to be gracious toward someone busted out on a bad beat, I felt compelled to say a few things that have been on my mind. " " You've already admitted to being a scumbag cheat yourself Johnny, and what's worse a scumbag cheat for the house. Ergo how about you let those of us who aren't scumbag cheats ask and answer questions about Poker's virtue compared to other professions. There was never a time when cheating was acceptable despite whatever internal spin doctoring you scumbags engaged in to sleep at night. There will never come a time when it's acceptable regardless of how many ZeeJustin's and Johnny Hughes tempt us to overhaul our own strict moral codes. " [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for making me search his posts for the last 20 minutes. I think I just got leveled. No way this is PG. From a microlimits thread he posted multiple times in: "Just the one, 19" I think. I usually overlay and just let them pop-up, but I've been known to tile and cascade also. It might be nice to see all the tables all the time, but I doubt I'd be able to pay enough attention to make a very big difference 12-tabling anyway. Where it would make a difference is with a HU display, which I presently don't use (I have Poker Office but the database really lags and makes it more of a hassle than it's probably worth). When I move up in stakes I probably will go with a second monitor setup and HU display." "I'm not getting any younger, hence the accelerated learning curve. I got started late with poker but I did play a lot of chess from the time I was fairly young so I well understand the strategic concepts of adversarial give and take. Also I'm not new to the game, I've got in a few hundred-thousand hands including play money." "This will probably surprise some people, but besides chess the other great multi-tabling training ground for me was pizza delivery. See once you've logged a few hundred road trips making 5-7 deliveries within a 45-minute window over a 50-60 square-mile culdesac purgatory of three different municipalities who each have their own vastly unique philosophy of how to organize address grids (and this was long before GPS) ... all the while throwing in the occasional traffic diversions, customers not answering their doors, wrong addresses, wrong phone numbers, wrong orders, speed bumps, idiot resturaunt managers, unchained Rottweilers who don't seem particularly fond of strangers and the always gleefully anticipated 2:00AM sojourn into the local housing project perpetually under some sort of "renovation" or "urban renewal" or some other political horse-sh-it that keeps the demagogues in good stead but does zero to improve the quality of life of the denizens or hapless pizza delivery drivers that may occasionally find themselves on the business end of a Saturday Night Special for their trouble .. well gentlemen then 12-tabling micros is a vacation. As for these B&M props who say online multi-tabling is bad for your career, that's just self-serving pablum with no basis in fact. On the contrary the greatest asset a poker player can have is experience. For those of us who got started late low limit multi-tabling affords an accelerated learning curve the B&M and higher limit online cash and tournament players can only dream about. I promise you playing 100k hands, however quickly, is going to have far more educational impact then ruminating over Minneapolis Jim's left eye tic while you wait for hand #34 to be dealt two fricken hours into the Bay 101 Shooting Donkament. "
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#55
08-02-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass
this thread is interesting though http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rt=all&vc=1
[ QUOTE ] Yeah Phil is terrible. That's why he's one of only about four players to have both a FT appearance in the Main Event and a WPT title to his name. You guys are such jerkoffs. He doesn't claim to be great, yes he is annoying at times so are you and me, there are 150 other players I could name who are 1000 times worse for poker and more worthy of flaming. I bet Phil Gordon has never thought about cheating, colluding, angle shooting, aggro-baiting or doing any of the other [censored] most of you punkshits and the big name players have probably done at one time or another that have given poker such a bad reputation. Good grief. He got his money in with the best hand, got outdrawn in a tourney he desperately wanted to win because of [censored] like you who totally disrespect him (admittedly he's overly concerned about his image).. yeah he's going to feel a bit disheartened, so would you. I think the fact the guy has $40 million and still cares as much as he does about excelling in another field says a lot about him. I have a lot more respect for Phil then I do for all the other independently wealthy players who are almost indifferent about winning or losing because of what they have away from the felt. I like his passion for the game. Phil has some growing to do, but as poker players go he's still one of the classier ones I've seen on TV. He's not Patrick Antonious, John Juanda, Barry G or Chris Ferguson .. but he's certainly not Daniel, Gavin, Josh Arieh, Mike M, Phil Laak or Annie Duke either. Generally he conducts himself graciously. Give the guy a break. [/ QUOTE ]
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#56
08-02-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: Phil Gordon is a Horse\'s Ass
So the guy likes Phil. That doesn't mean he is actually Phil.
I don't get all the hate on here on PG. I may need to do some searches to see where it comes from. I went to a book-signing here at Borders and chatted with him for awhile and he was a really nice humble guy. I was a little taken aback by his early Jerry Yang critcism on the PPV but if you watch the whole thing like I did in real time I was thinking the same thoughts at the time and he did put it into context later. I prefer the "raw" commentary and criticism than having some "everybody is great" play by play. Wait...maybe I'm phil gordon and I'm leveling you.
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