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Old 08-05-2007, 08:37 PM
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Is it worthwhile to raise that AdKc on Q92d?

I think not, 'cause you're opponent has already just check raised you and is unlikely to be folding there. You are also unlikely to currently have the best hand.

Chance opponent folds to 3bet: Small.

Chance you have best hand: Small.

Result: Don't raise.



Is it worthwhile to call?

When it gets to you the second time, there is $275 in the pot.

It costs you $80 to call.

You are getting odds of 275:80, or 3.4375:1

Your chance of making the nuts on the turn is about 19%, or about 4:1. Thus, to be profitable, you need to make another $45 when you make the flush.

If, when you make the nuts, you think you can on average extract another $45 (which is not likely to be difficult when your opponent will be facing a pot size of $400 even if he checks to you on the turn and a bet of at least $45)

Thus, you should call.


edit: removed an obviously incorrect decimal point

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there is no reason to shove on the flop cause ur getting paid off if you hit most of the time here.

edit: an ez way to look at this is that you have 30% equity on the flop (28.6% to be exact). You're getting 3.5:1 to call and ur implied odds are pretty huge considering he is unlikely to fold his JTs or KTs or T9s if another d falls.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:46 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:50 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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I typically raise because:

a) i think i have the best hand and want to increase the size of the pot

b) i think i can get my opponent to fold

c) to get my opponent to fold on a future street

i dont think any of these situations apply here.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:50 PM
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I just stepped in an ant pile, 9 bites + I'm allergic. [censored] rigged [censored]

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epi-pen or emergency room?

Far too late, but popping pepcid and benadryl immediately has saved me from the worst of the symptoms. The first time I got bit, I had no idea what was happening and waited too long before getting any help. Scary.

Hope it wasn't too bad...worst part about living in FL.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:52 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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raising is an option.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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U can usually tell what your options are, but looking to see what clickable buttons appear when it's your turn to act.
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:00 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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raising is an option.

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I mean ffs, the guy is playing 1000nl. This is pretty basic which raises more questions in my mind.
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:14 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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U can usually tell what your options are, but looking to see what clickable buttons appear when it's your turn to act.

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in case you were wondering, not an option^
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:30 PM
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Ahahahahah that picture is so good.
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:48 PM
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he probably wants to know if raising is an option.

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raising is an option.

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I mean ffs, the guy is playing 1000nl. This is pretty basic which raises more questions in my mind.

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1. I've only recently moved up and have only put in about 7k hands at this level, so I'm of course looking for feedback.

2. There have been several responses from several VERY good posters on here ranging from call, call/maybe raise to raise/maybe shove. Makes it a seem a little less "basic" to me.

As for the hand itself, I took a minute to try and figure out what he was making the play with. I put it as about (just an estimate) 1 in 4 that he was on a bluff and would fold to a 3-bet. The other 75% I'm looking at one of the following:

AA - doubt it given I have the Ad and his preflop action (9 outs against it if he has it and there's a decent shot he'd fold to a 3-bet)
KK - possible with the Kd but unlikely otherwise (gives me 11 outs between the other diamonds and the three aces if he has the Kd and he's folding to a 3-bet if he doesn't have the Kd)
AQ - unlikely with no diamond (if he has it he's folding to a 3-bet)
KQ - possible with the Kd (as in the KK case, gives me 11 outs)
Set - for some reason this didn't feel right, but it's certainly possible (9 outs to my flush)
Flush - definite possibility (7 outs)

With this as my thought process, I raised to about $450. He thought about it for about half his time bank before shoving and I called.

He had KK with the Kd, leaving me 11 outs, and I spiked the diamond on the river.
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