STTF SNG->cash thread

[futuredoc85]

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karp,

I think in moderation. I really doubt anyone suggested blindly calling down to the felt with KK on an A high board. In STTs, maybe, I did a lot, lol.

Yugoslav

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Yes that's what I meant. Lost in translation [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Anyways, whats the standard on this hand?

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as isura said, check and play poker. usually call one street, valuebet river it checks that far.

[dipstikdave]

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dipstik (or would you prefer dave?),

Call.

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/agree and i would bet the flop

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thanks guys, is raising this turn horrible?

[cakewalk]

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Can someone confirm the math I did on Cleinen's hand is right?

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theres no math in poker

[blackize]

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thanks guys, is raising this turn horrible?

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It puts in a lot of money with like 30% equity and is very unlikely to fold a queen or a better draw at this level. You're getting almost exactly the immediate odds you need to call and getting value on the river is just gravy.

[DevinLake]

Villain is 17/13/2.

I'd been pretty much pwning him all night. He's tried to play back a bit. I expect him to be making some moves on me by this point.

Anyone like a shove? Villain left $170 behind.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($244.94)
Button ($68)
SB ($192)
BB ($76.60)
Hero ($578.50)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($338)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP calls $14, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, MP calls $24.

Turn: ($82) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $130</font>, Hero ????

[The Yugoslavian]

devin,

No, I like a c/f on the turn unless you think he's going to be fine folding like a little bitch as he has the rest of the session.

Yugoslav

[Isura]

Well your bluff only has to work about 50% of the time. I guess he'll have 66-TT or some random float (KQ etc) often enough, since he's repping exactly AJ/JJ/33.

[MadScientist]

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Villain is 17/13/2.

I'd been pretty much pwning him all night. He's tried to play back a bit. I expect him to be making some moves on me by this point.

Anyone like a shove? Villain left $170 behind.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($244.94)
Button ($68)
SB ($192)
BB ($76.60)
Hero ($578.50)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($338)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP calls $14, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, MP calls $24.

Turn: ($82) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $130</font>, Hero ????

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Original board is drawless. Also, your pair is so low, you don't beat many other pps. I like c/f on turn. As played, I like a fold. Though shoving is sexy. If he would call with KT, KQ out of frustration, then I may start to like it.
Is he really doing this with total air?
Also, you are just going to get hands you beat to fold and hands you lose to tend to call. If the turn was 2-T, I like it better.

[MadScientist]

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Can someone confirm the math I did on Cleinen's hand is right?

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theres no math in poker

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I AIMed him about it. He was like 25% three way equity including some draw plus pair hands that he beats and fl draws that he is temporarily ahead of.
These low pair plus open ended hands tend to be folds without implied odds imo or fold equity.

[The Yugoslavian]

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Well your bluff only has to work about 50% of the time. I guess he'll have 66-TT or some random float (KQ etc) often enough, since he's repping exactly AJ/JJ/33.

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He isn't just playing Ax this way on pseudo-tilt?

Yugoslav