SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV 2007 (nc)

[spivey]

So [censored] what. He called with K3 on the previous hand. He'll probably call with any crappy pair there because of "pot odds".

[keikiwai]

hahahaha

i love when TAGs think think too many levels deep

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $919.80 (229.95 BB)
SB: $627.60 (156.90 BB)
keikiwai (BB): $406 (101.50 BB)
UTG: $404.30 (101.08 BB)
CO: $457 (114.25 BB)

Pre-Flop: 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to keikiwai (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, keikiwai calls $12

Flop: ($34) 2 5 T (2 Players)
keikiwai checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $24</font>, <font color="red">keikiwai raises to $100</font>, UTG calls $76

Turn: ($234) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">keikiwai bets $180</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $288.30 and is All-In</font>, keikiwai calls $108.30

River: ($810.60) 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $810.60 Pot ($2 Rake)
keikiwai showed 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fives) and WON $808.60 (+$404.30 NET)
UTG mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$404.30 NET)

[SirFelixCat]

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So [censored] what. He called with K3 on the previous hand. He'll probably call with any crappy pair there because of "pot odds".

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Oh, I didn't explain. Different villains and different tables, sorry.

[Ajahn]

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Felix,

That 2nd hand is ridiculous spew.

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Not w/ my read of him that he will call behind and bet pot when checked to when weak. Make a read, go w/ it.

Pretty easy, really.

Granted, not a default play, but w/ my reads, seemed like a GREAT spot, imo.

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Yes, but his bluffing range includes many hands that beat you. And his calling range for the c/r as well.

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Oh no doubt that he was very likely ahead here. But my line is SICK strong and basically yelling to him that I have a K. There is so slim a chance that he can call here (obv. w/ a K he does, but he has one here about never), that imo, this is way +EV.

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You are so wrong it's uncanny.

[nuggetz87]

im done with poker

[spivey]

Yeah, when I took my 5/10 shot, I found a 65/35 and a couple of other vicious donks. I dunno if I just got lucky, or I was hitting FTP at primetime donk hours, but I was surprised that the 3 tables I sat at didn't seem any harder than 1/2.

I was running 24/20 and even running over a lot of the regs.

[SirFelixCat]

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Felix,

That 2nd hand is ridiculous spew.

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Not w/ my read of him that he will call behind and bet pot when checked to when weak. Make a read, go w/ it.

Pretty easy, really.

Granted, not a default play, but w/ my reads, seemed like a GREAT spot, imo.

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Yes, but his bluffing range includes many hands that beat you. And his calling range for the c/r as well.

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Oh no doubt that he was very likely ahead here. But my line is SICK strong and basically yelling to him that I have a K. There is so slim a chance that he can call here (obv. w/ a K he does, but he has one here about never), that imo, this is way +EV.

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You are so wrong it's uncanny.

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Then we can agree to disagree in this case. I appreciate the feedback though!

[imozyslow]

i wouldnt mind his play if he opened from BTN/CO, where you are likely to be bluff raising the flop wide (primarily with flush draws) and following up on the turn.

[spivey]

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hahahaha

i love when TAGs think think too many levels deep

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $919.80 (229.95 BB)
SB: $627.60 (156.90 BB)
keikiwai (BB): $406 (101.50 BB)
UTG: $404.30 (101.08 BB)
CO: $457 (114.25 BB)

Pre-Flop: 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to keikiwai (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, keikiwai calls $12

Flop: ($34) 2 5 T (2 Players)
keikiwai checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $24</font>, <font color="red">keikiwai raises to $100</font>, UTG calls $76

Turn: ($234) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">keikiwai bets $180</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $288.30 and is All-In</font>, keikiwai calls $108.30

River: ($810.60) 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $810.60 Pot ($2 Rake)
keikiwai showed 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fives) and WON $808.60 (+$404.30 NET)
UTG mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$404.30 NET)

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I don't think that villain played it that bad. I never say this, but AT=AA there almost always, and I'm not folding AA there.

[BGnight]

I have an 84/40 maniac at my table w/ 250bbs [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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