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I consider myself a libertarian and agree with the pro-israeli stance more than the pro-palestinian one. |
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I consider myself a libertarian and agree with the pro-palestinian stance more than the pro-israeli one. |
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5 | 23.81% |
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like i said wayyy earlier, i checked my email before going to campus around 9:30. i did not have any emails concerning classes/campus and went ahead into class. I walk within 100 yards of the building where the killings occured before i was stopped and warned by a random teacher walking out of a building. based on his "suggestions" i left and went back home thinking this is another "nothing" similar to morva in august and the bomb threats recently.
this scares me so much and i feel extremely violated to know that i could have been warned at 7:30am and avoided any possibility for exchange with this psycho. not to mention the many students who were killed. I believe there will be 50+ EASILY. he was on the 3rd floor, 2nd floor at a minimum. slaughtered atleast on eentire class room and there are reports of bodies found in multiple places. This leads me to believe he slaughtered more than one class room's worth of students I feel extremely upset by this |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/6561733.stm
[ QUOTE ] Even though it seemed to take quite a long time, the timer on my phone seemed to indicate that the whole sequence of events was over in only 25 minutes. [/ QUOTE ] this seems like way way way way too long to me. 25 minutes of a gunman walking around a building shooting people? |
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[ QUOTE ] In situations like this I've never felt that much empathy for those involved. Not to say I don't feel bad that it happened, just that there's not much of an effect on me. It's weird to see someone saying they cried about this and knew no one involved. It feels very distant to me, much like the bombings/killings around the world that don't bother me too much. I'm not going to make jokes about it or anything because I don't find it funny and I don't want to upset anyone who is upset by all of this. I just think it's interesting how these things affect everyone differently. One thing I have to say: There's alot of hate in here for officials not cancelling classes after the first shooting. Now for me, if I heard people were shot on campus and did not hear definite proof that the suspect was captured, I'M NOT GOING TO SCHOOL! I think the official act of cancelling classes is redundant at that point. Of course, that being said, the people in charge had to shut down the dorms to make sure no one got in to shoot more people. That's where they [censored] up, not the class cancelling thing. [/ QUOTE ] By 9am this morning, i was unaware of any school shooting. [/ QUOTE ]Yeah, barrett cleared that up earlier. My mistake. |
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Partysover, did this happen in small classrooms where sections are hold with ~40 people? Or are they in lecture halls? Medium lecture halls with ~100 people? Large lecture halls?
I'm at UC San Diego, our thoughts are with you. |
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Party's:
My deepest sympathy for your really bad experiences. I agree that this looks bad and it sounds like they fkd up bigtime, but what if they just thought that this was a crime, not a "school shooting"? In Baltimore, a girl was murdered once on JHU campus...(turned out by her boyfriend)...and they didn't cancel class. Same goes for when someone got stabbed (never caught the psycho who did it) in a JHU frat house. I'm just saying, you may be able to see why they were confused if they thought this was a crime of passion not a mass-murder thing...if they closed most city campuses whenever there was a murder nearby they'd never be open. Still, if they had ANY inkling that this was random killing, or that the guy was out for revenge, then this is almost criminal negligence. A lot depends on the facts, that I hope come out soon. --GA |
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There was a shooting at Davis where a man (not a student) was killed by police after entering the 21ft zone with a knife. The campus was not shut down.
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cnn just had a swat specialist on who said something to the effect of: "i know this is tough, but you've got to get in there and get to the gunman. once you're close to him and have eliminated him, there is no more threat." question at press conference now: "why not shut down campus after the first shooting?" "the information we received after the first shooting was that it was an isolated incident to that dormitory" "can you elaborate on why it took two hours to inform students of the first shooting?" "they were informed" "students didnt' receive an email until 9:26" "well, that's when we confirmed what happened." in between the two they go on to say that they believed the gunman left campus and the state due to information they had, but they would not elaborate why. awful. [/ QUOTE ] according to Dids, this is perfectly acceptable! |
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There was a shooting at Davis where a man (not a student) was killed by police after entering the 21ft zone with a knife. The campus was not shut down. [/ QUOTE ] a guy who was apparently on all sorts of drugs (from what i understand, had a gun) was trying to get to his girlfriend who was in one of the dorms (this is in davis). the girlfriend called the police. the police came. the guy brandished his weapon and was advancing towards the police. he was shot and killed. |
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Partysover, did this happen in small classrooms where sections are hold with ~40 people? Or are they in lecture halls? Medium lecture halls with ~100 people? Large lecture halls? I'm at UC San Diego, our thoughts are with you. [/ QUOTE ] norris has a large lecture hall and there are rooms and labs, just depending on the floor/area. from stories i've been hearing, it sounds like he terrorized the small 40 person rooms. I can't see how,if he has 25 minutes in there, he only killed 32 people. GA-- This is what i thought at first. The fact is that they made a mistake. There should have been some kind of alert, no one outside of West Ambler Johnston even knew about a shooting on campus. I think it's a huge mistake to try to keep a shooting on campus quiet -especially with no one in custody also -the right play would have been to make today's first two hours cancelled and then re-evaluated the situation. I'm not saying they need to straight cancel class, but some warning and maybe a delay would have saved lives, no doubt about it. |
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